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Old 08-08-2006, 11:31 AM
Iliak Iliak is offline
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Default Re: New discussion about Austrias role in Nazi era

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas
After it has become a fact, Austrians adopted quite fast and its hard to admit but it turned out that we were the "better" Nazis. With the most cruel inhumane and asocial Nazi officials being Austrians. Its a shame we have to live with.
Citizenship and many other social characteristics happen by default, so why should you be ashamed of the actions by other countrymen? There's no need to be ashamed of that. The Americans, for example, are clearly proud of their country although it is the result of organized, authoritative massmurder and endless expansion. But it's all history now. I would never hold any American responsible for his ancestors actions; that would be foolish. Similarly, I would never dream of judging an Austrian or a German for the actions of Hitler.


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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas
What are you talking about?
Austria is not more "insignificant" than Sweden is.
Concerning international cooperation Austria is even quite well known as conference town. Austria still has its world class things, like eg the Staatsoper that can claim easily to be one of the worlds most important opera houses for example. Austria belongs tot he most wealthy nations in the world (like Sweden too). I can not see why one should not be able to be proud at a country, just because it has not more than 8 million inhabitants.
Austria had to settle for a small state option, giving up any pretence to even a regional role. That was my point.