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Originally Posted by Otter
You were the one talking about it to begin with. My experience is that gay folks come from all walks of life, and therefore have different cultures.
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That hasn't been what I'VE observed. Sure, they come "from all walks of life". Their entire being and self identity is centered on "gay" though. There seems to be a connection to deviant sexual behaviour and a negative veiw of the overall society. They seem to think that they are somehow "better" than the rest of "us". So far HERE (this forum) you are the exception to the rule (there are always exceptions). You seem able and willing to DEAL and discuss with "us" rather than dish out attitude, arrogance and dressed up "intellectualism". You're non-snotty attitude is very refreshing and makes me wonder if there really ARE a few gay people that don't have their heads where they don't belong :-) Well, Ok there MUST be LOL. Could that previous sentence be applied to liberals and liberalism ? I can't answer that one.
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Originally Posted by Otter
The only unifying issue is the desire to be treated fairly (and probaly not all gay folk would even agree on this). So I becme curious when straight folk start on about 'gay culture'. It appears you concept comes from televised parades and possibly fundie preacher descriptions. What if I formed my ideas about straight folks from watching televised Mardi Gras celebrations?
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I've formed my opinions based on the ones I've known and met. Based on those HERE as well of course (I know THAT can't be a fair representation. What ? Are 98 % of gay people unbalanced nuts ? Based on HERE, that would be the only conclusion one could come to.)
Never watched a "televised gay parade". Do they really televise that shit ? I don't GET cable. Don't listen to "fundie preachers" as they bore me.
You state:
The only unifying issue is the desire to be treated fairly.
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(and probably not all gay folk would even agree on this)
If gays want to be treated fairly, they'd better get their act(s) together and actually decide just what the hell it is they WANT. They want marriage they want rights. Marriage rights marriage rights marriage rights marriage rights ........ Then they make statements like "the rights only COME with the word." which is obviously false even to a fool like ME. It only proves once again, the general connection to deviant sexual behaviour and a negative veiw of the overall society. When they realize they aren't going to SUCCEED in redefining the word marriage, maybe they'll decide to WORK on the "getting treated fairly" part. They COULD have been working on that this whole TIME. Instead, they've busied themselves pissing off a good portion of America. But, yes I know. Most of America happily accepts homosexuality ALREADY. RIGHT ? And we're all ready to have marriage redefined TOO RIGHT ? It should HAPPEN in the next couple years then yes ? Lets see what happens.