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Originally Posted by MareTranquility
Thanks Hugger, that's the point I posted that WEB couldn't figure out. It would be nice if all genetics were quick and easy, black and white, and not at all complicated, but it just ain't the case. As I have tried unsuccessfully to explain: every time we look at the causes for many genetic traits we discover that they are not just a single gene causing a single effect, rather it is more like the packages of accessories car manufacturers put out on new cars--you can get the air conditioning but you have to take the leather seats and heated side mirrors with it. For instance there are tens of thousands of chemical combinations circulating in our brains to make them work properly and trying to tease out the single gene responsible for the production of any one of those is impossible at this stage in our scientific development.
I accept that the evolutionary process is at work shaping life on this planet, but it isn't a tidy process, it's messy, complex, and very poorly understood beyond it's grossest application. The idea that homosexuality is a "major imperfection from the Darwinist perspective" is not supported by anything but a bald statement by WEB, who has not shown himself as any kind of authority on evolution. As Mr. Hugger pointed out it's not an imperfection worth worrying about if it is part of a package that improves fertility in 95% of the population while reducing fertility in 5%. The fact that the human species has prospered despite the fact that a few percent of the people are homosexual would argue that from an evolutionary standpoint it ISN'T a major imperfection. Bigoted people are using pseudo-science to further a religious myth, nothing more. Humans have been doing just fine for several thousands of years, thank you, despite the fact that a few of them are homosexual.
No matter how you twist the evidence, the simple fact remains: there is no evidence to show that homosexual people are a problem of ANY kind except in the small minds of some people.
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A thoroughly dumb pile of activist crap. OK firstly, since you're playing the condescension and pretentious route here, how about showing us some sources to back up what you say?
Secondly, it is just a plain lie that homosexuality is not an evolutionary disadvantage. I know that you will never accept anything that does not fit with your pro-homosexuality agenda, but the very basis of evolution is who and what gets to pass on its genes. Homosexuals exhibiting pure homosexual behavior are not naturally able to pass on their genes. Try to get that through your thick skull.
Thirdly, you rely upon a strawman to build your argument. No doubt the human body is complicated. We are extremely complicated organisms. However, this in no way validates your claim that traits are tied to each other. Rather, humans evolved over millions of years, if not billions of years from single-cell life forms. Over this enormous timespan organisms became more and more complex. We do not know which sequence of DNA controls what, but our ignorance does not prove your theory.
Lastly, it is highly unlikely that traits would be linked to each other as this would prevent the high degree of evolution and near-perfection that you find so mysterious.
I know that you are too much of a sophist to give an intelligent or straightfoward reply. You can only hide behind political correctness and personal attacks (i.e. "small minded people", "bigot", etc). People like you really are a menace and we need to destroy the political correctness shield you abuse and hide behind.
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