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Old 08-14-2006, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: Why is homosexuality and transexuality ok?

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
A thoroughly dumb pile of activist crap. OK firstly, since you're playing the condescension and pretentious route here, how about showing us some sources to back up what you say?
Ok, what do you want a source for? Shall I send you a reading list?

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
Secondly, it is just a plain lie that homosexuality is not an evolutionary disadvantage. I know that you will never accept anything that does not fit with your pro-homosexuality agenda, but the very basis of evolution is who and what gets to pass on its genes. Homosexuals exhibiting pure homosexual behavior are not naturally able to pass on their genes. Try to get that through your thick skull.
"...a plain lie that homosexuality is not an evolutionary disadvantage." I would like you to demonstrate the correctness of this accusation please.
"Homosexuals exhibiting pure homosexual behavior"? Does Mr. Hard help you think this stuff up?

Aren't you the one who is maintaining that evolution weeds out the disadvantageous traits? Why hasn't homosexuality been weeded out? You are the one who say that it's "...a major imperfection...", so why hasn't it been weeded out?????? I'm not nearly as God-like in my knowledge as you are so I suspect that maybe it's not a major imperfection--except to bigots. (Bigotry is a combination of fear and ignorance, seems to fit the situation to me at least as well as all the epithets you have applied to me, don't you think? Please note that I haven't resorted to obscence sexual accusations either, unlike some people in this discussion.)


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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
Thirdly, you rely upon a strawman to build your argument. No doubt the human body is complicated. We are extremely complicated organisms. However, this in no way validates your claim that traits are tied to each other. Rather, humans evolved over millions of years, if not billions of years from single-cell life forms. Over this enormous timespan organisms became more and more complex. We do not know which sequence of DNA controls what, but our ignorance does not prove your theory.
Nor does our ignorance DISPROVE my suggestion that maybe we don't know enough about the process to state with God-like certainty that "...it's a major imperfection..." All I'm arguing is that we don't know enough to start condemning people for a trait of which we do not know the genesis or mechanism.

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
Lastly, it is highly unlikely that traits would be linked to each other as this would prevent the high degree of evolution and near-perfection that you find so mysterious.
Twaddle, you have nothing on which to base such a sweeping statement. Note your quotes from paragraph 2 of your post: "the human body is complicated. We are extremely complicated organisms." "...humans evolved over millions of years, if not billions of years from single-cell life forms. Over this enormous timespan organisms became more and more complex. We do not know which sequence of DNA controls what..." So, WE don't know enough, but YOU are so God-like that you can make sweeping statements and condemn millions of people because you KNOW what major imperfections have slipped past the evolutionary process for thousands of years.
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