Visit the Active Site for U.S. Politics Online -- U.S. Politics Online . com

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 39

Thread: Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

  1. #1
    jpn's Avatar
    jpn
    jpn is offline Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    1,723

    Default Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

    In the old days, in order to get your agenda passed to formed a majority in the House and Senate and passed the bill. If a law as sufficiently benefitial to the nation, you could expect to get reasonable support from enough members of the opposing party to cobble together a majority.

    But the GOP is tired of that old-fashioned way of governing. Much of their agenda is too extreme even for conservative Democrats.

    But instead of trying to win majorities in Congress, they are turning to blackmail and coersion.

    The blackmail of the debt ceiling debacle is self-evident.
    Then there's their decision to reject any and all nominees to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, regardless of merit, unless Democrats accepted changes to the agency’s structure that Republicans can't pass through legislation.
    Similarly, because of their objection to various policies passed by majorities in the House and Senate, they opposed Don Berwick, Obama’s first choice to run the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services; Peter Diamond for a seat on the Federal Reserve Board; and John Bryson, Obama’s nominee to take over the Commerce Department.

    It's an unprecidented power grab by a party that can't get pass its agenda the old-fashioned way--otherwise known as the democratic process.

  2. #2
    fishjoel's Avatar
    fishjoel is offline Vice President
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Colorado Springs, Colorado
    Posts
    6,800

    Default Re: Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    In the old days, in order to get your agenda passed to formed a majority in the House and Senate and passed the bill. If a law as sufficiently benefitial to the nation, you could expect to get reasonable support from enough members of the opposing party to cobble together a majority.

    But the GOP is tired of that old-fashioned way of governing. Much of their agenda is too extreme even for conservative Democrats.

    But instead of trying to win majorities in Congress, they are turning to blackmail and coersion.

    The blackmail of the debt ceiling debacle is self-evident.
    Then there's their decision to reject any and all nominees to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, regardless of merit, unless Democrats accepted changes to the agency’s structure that Republicans can't pass through legislation.
    Similarly, because of their objection to various policies passed by majorities in the House and Senate, they opposed Don Berwick, Obama’s first choice to run the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services; Peter Diamond for a seat on the Federal Reserve Board; and John Bryson, Obama’s nominee to take over the Commerce Department.

    It's an unprecidented power grab by a party that can't get pass its agenda the old-fashioned way--otherwise known as the democratic process.
    Really? I thought it was the Democrats that were being obstructionists.
    "It is US policy that Ghadafi has to go but, let me emphasize, we anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not weeks." - Obama

  3. #3
    tsquare is offline Vice President
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    St Louis
    Posts
    7,639

    Default Re: Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    In the old days, in order to get your agenda passed to formed a majority in the House and Senate and passed the bill. If a law as sufficiently benefitial to the nation, you could expect to get reasonable support from enough members of the opposing party to cobble together a majority.

    But the GOP is tired of that old-fashioned way of governing. Much of their agenda is too extreme even for conservative Democrats.

    But instead of trying to win majorities in Congress, they are turning to blackmail and coersion.

    The blackmail of the debt ceiling debacle is self-evident.
    Then there's their decision to reject any and all nominees to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, regardless of merit, unless Democrats accepted changes to the agency’s structure that Republicans can't pass through legislation.
    Similarly, because of their objection to various policies passed by majorities in the House and Senate, they opposed Don Berwick, Obama’s first choice to run the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services; Peter Diamond for a seat on the Federal Reserve Board; and John Bryson, Obama’s nominee to take over the Commerce Department.

    It's an unprecidented power grab by a party that can't get pass its agenda the old-fashioned way--otherwise known as the democratic process.
    You want some brie with that?



    BTW jpn: any luck on finding a link to the Obama plan?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Obama Killed Osama" emblazoned on front. Obama target shots of "10 Somali Pirates, 3 Khadafy Grandkids, 2 Osama Wives, The U.S. Economy And Got A Peace Prize For Doing It" emblazoned on back. Club Gitmo logo on left sleeve. Available in Institutional Orange only

  4. #4
    kwilliam10 is offline Lieutenant Governor
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    450

    Default Re: Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    You want some brie with that?



    BTW jpn: any luck on finding a link to the Obama plan?
    ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!! I love this guy!!!

  5. #5
    FearandLoathing is offline U.S. House Representative
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Vancouver
    Posts
    690

    Default Re: Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    The blackmail of the debt ceiling debacle is self-evident.
    Then there's their decision to reject any and all nominees to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, regardless of merit, unless Democrats accepted changes to the agency’s structure that Republicans can't pass through legislation.


    And, I think if you check the record it's been a guy by the name of Barak OWe-Bama who's been playing the blackmail, fear mongering card like social security checks won't go out and soldiers won't get paid. They were lies and he knew it.


    So enjoy the brie, if you can afford it.
    "Any fool can make a rule. And every fool will mind it." Henry David Thoreau

  6. #6
    Blue Doggy is offline Secretary of Defense
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    South US
    Posts
    3,039

    Default Re: Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

    Quote Originally Posted by FearandLoathing View Post
    And, I think if you check the record it's been a guy by the name of Barak OWe-Bama who's been playing the blackmail, fear mongering card like social security checks won't go out and soldiers won't get paid. They were lies and he knew it.


    So enjoy the brie, if you can afford it.
    Yeah, Obama really needs to stop imitating the Pubs. One rotten ass party is more than enough.

    The Pubs are masters at this sort of behavior btw. Which should surprise no one really. I think they should be lined up and executed for treason driven by their hatred of Obama. Hopefully the average American will wake up and insure the Pubs will dwell in the dustbins of history. It don't take rocket science to figure out who the Pubs represent in D.C. and it ain't you if you are an average American. We have our own Royal Party, one that Ike sure wouldn't like going by his fights against the crazy Cons in his era.

  7. #7
    tsquare is offline Vice President
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    St Louis
    Posts
    7,639

    Default Re: Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Doggy View Post
    Yeah, Obama really needs to stop imitating the Pubs. One rotten ass party is more than enough.

    The Pubs are masters at this sort of behavior btw. Which should surprise no one really. I think they should be lined up and executed for treason driven by their hatred of Obama. Hopefully the average American will wake up and insure the Pubs will dwell in the dustbins of history. It don't take rocket science to figure out who the Pubs represent in D.C. and it ain't you if you are an average American. We have our own Royal Party, one that Ike sure wouldn't like going by his fights against the crazy Cons in his era.
    We're going to need a lot more Brie over here...

    Or is this more to your liking Mr Man of the people?



    Party's over... time to clean up the mess 50 years of out-of-control spending has left.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Obama Killed Osama" emblazoned on front. Obama target shots of "10 Somali Pirates, 3 Khadafy Grandkids, 2 Osama Wives, The U.S. Economy And Got A Peace Prize For Doing It" emblazoned on back. Club Gitmo logo on left sleeve. Available in Institutional Orange only

  8. #8
    Hoplite's Avatar
    Hoplite is offline Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    California
    Posts
    1,032

    Default Re: Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

    I would consider the Republicans who are demanding a balanced budget amendment before they'll accept anything to be borderline blackmail.

    They HAVE to know that not only will that NOT happen, it'll take a hell of a lot longer than we have before the deadline.

    Additionally, ANYONE saying "We wont sign anything unless there are no new taxes" is being incredibly unrealistic and to me, that says obstructionism.

    Demanding something happen that you reasonably know cant or wont happen before you move forward is obstructionist.
    [CENTER][U]When I gave food to the poor, they called me a saint. When I asked why they are poor, they called me a Communist.
    -Bishop Hélder Câmara[/U]

    [I]Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
    -Abraham Lincoln[/I]
    [/CENTER]

  9. #9
    Blue Doggy is offline Secretary of Defense
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    South US
    Posts
    3,039

    Default Re: Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    We're going to need a lot more Brie over here...

    Or is this more to your liking Mr Man of the people?



    Party's over... time to clean up the mess 50 years of out-of-control spending has left.
    Typical Con response. They got brains but don't know how to use em. If they did, they sure would not vote for the Royal Party, who is no friend to you, no matter what their propaganda says.

  10. #10
    Forplay's Avatar
    Forplay is offline Secretary of Defense
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Sunny and Nice
    Posts
    3,386

    Default Re: Republicans Resort to Blackmail and Coersion

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    In the old days, in order to get your agenda passed to formed a majority in the House and Senate and passed the bill. If a law as sufficiently benefitial to the nation, you could expect to get reasonable support from enough members of the opposing party to cobble together a majority.
    In the old day's, yeah but that all changed when the Dem's controlled both houses of congress and the white house when they passed Obamacare, without one Republican vote.

    But the GOP is tired of that old-fashioned way of governing. Much of their agenda is too extreme even for conservative Democrats.
    Yep, talk about extreme, Obamacare was as extreme as it gets.

    But instead of trying to win majorities in Congress, they are turning to blackmail and coersion.
    Yep that is exactly what the Dem's did on Obamacare.

    The blackmail of the debt ceiling debacle is self-evident.
    Yeah the Dem's were blackmailing each other to pass Obamacare and worse yet giving special deals for their vote.

    Then there's their decision to reject any and all nominees to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, regardless of merit, unless Democrats accepted changes to the agency’s structure that Republicans can't pass through legislation.
    Sounds just like the Dem's

    Similarly, because of their objection to various policies passed by majorities in the House and Senate, they opposed Don Berwick, Obama’s first choice to run the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services; Peter Diamond for a seat on the Federal Reserve Board; and John Bryson, Obama’s nominee to take over the Commerce Department.
    Wow, because of objections to various policies passed by the majorities in the house and senate, and that was a Dem controlled house and senate. That you say the Pubs are against. Do you not know that most all of American now is against the failed policies of Obama and the Dem controlled house and senate.


    It's an unprecidented power grab by a party that can't get pass its agenda the old-fashioned way--otherwise known as the democratic process.
    Power grab, is that not exactly what the Dem's did with Obamacare?
    [B]Obama 2012 [/B]
    No Hope
    No Change
    No Promises
    No Presidency
    Fool them once but not twice

    [COLOR="Red"][B]Obama's legacy, The National Debt and Downgrade[/B][/COLOR]
    [COLOR="red"]
    [B][url]www.usdebtclock.org[/url][/B][/COLOR]

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 05-12-2009, 07:58 AM
  2. Cheney Accuses Russia of Blackmail
    By CDavidNeely in forum Breaking News in Politics
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 05-10-2006, 11:31 AM
  3. War only as last resort
    By atomicbeandog in forum War & Peace
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 09-11-2005, 06:46 AM
  4. Replies: 11
    Last Post: 10-13-2004, 03:43 PM
  5. The Resort to Force
    By CosmicCyclura in forum War & Peace
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-19-2004, 11:14 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •