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    At least Timothy Geithner or Al Gore is an apples-to-apples comparison, although what fishjoel is saying is correct. But at least Timothy Geithner didn't pay taxes and then is in charge of the Treasury which collects money via taxes. Walsh didn't pay child support and then is saying that deficit spending is unsustainable. The two issues are wholly unrelated. It would be as if I said "Al Gore littered and now he wants us to stop using fossil fuels." Uh, OK. Both have to do with "the environment," I guess, so I guess you could say the one is related to the other. Uh, I guess. That's how nonsensical this is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-B-M View Post
    At least Timothy Geithner or Al Gore is an apples-to-apples comparison, although what fishjoel is saying is correct. But at least Timothy Geithner didn't pay taxes and then is in charge of the Treasury which collects money via taxes. Walsh didn't pay child support and then is saying that deficit spending is unsustainable. The two issues are wholly unrelated. It would be as if I said "Al Gore littered and now he wants us to stop using fossil fuels." Uh, OK. Both have to do with "the environment," I guess, so I guess you could say the one is related to the other. Uh, I guess. That's how nonsensical this is.
    Hey...I'm just making sure that we're calling everyone out in a bipartisan manner. I think, if we are using this logic, we can say that the Federal Reserve is an invalid institution and Keynesian as well because Timothy Geithner didn't pay his taxes.
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    While Walsh's private life should be separated from his public life, the two topics at hand involve the exact same principle: Financial Responsibility

    Paying your debts is certainly a key element to financial responsibility. Failure to pay his own kids $100,000 for their upbringing when he has a salary almost twice that much, shows failure in his personal financial responsibility. Then, he goes out in public and talks about how fiscally irresponsible OTHER people are.

    It would be like Bill Clinton running on a moral values platform. Its complete hypocrisy.

    I'd even argue that he should resign. Its not so much that I think people should resign over their personal life foibles, but the precedent is being set by recent occurrences. Congressman Weiner recently resigned over a personal life issue. Rightwingers were quite vocal about suggesting he should resign because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Hey...I'm just making sure that we're calling everyone out in a bipartisan manner. I think, if we are using this logic, we can say that the Federal Reserve is an invalid institution and Keynesian as well because Timothy Geithner didn't pay his taxes.
    Call them all out. The man is preaching what he don't practice. The message is not lost because a hypocrite isn't delivering it, you just need a messenger that can be taken seriously. If he wants to support my 2nd amendment rights ... go for it.

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    The messenger is important when your preaching and you can't change it by pointing out someone else was naughty. But feel free to list all the others ... you may find some I'm unaware of ... and I'll dismiss their message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Of course it is MHP, don't be coy with me. You specifically pointed out his affiliation and thus made the link in your very own OP.

    You admit that the message is not invalidated regardless of personal actions. Very good, MHP, this is progress :P

    He's a public figure and it is his job to make public statements. I don't see this Walsh guy as being anyone's darling as I've never heard of him before.
    ahoy Fishjoel,

    imma not bein' coy, me friend. when the GOP runs on "social values" and then engage in endless sexual philanderin', then i want'm to shut thar mouths. when Mr. Gore climbs in his white tower and hurls declarations 'o conservation, i want'm to not have a carbon footprint that would make an AGW denier proud. when Elliot Spitzer is supposed to be a figure representin' law 'n order, i don't wanna see'm pokin' his weenis into the orafice 'o a prostitute.

    *throws a pie at Mr. Obama*

    and i don't want me skipper puttin' someone like Timothy Geithner on the bridge and hand'm the purse strings, when he was incapable 'o even payin' his own taxes, absolutely agreed, mate. that appointment was not only errant, but also shows how craven Mr. Obama be to "pro-business" interests.

    when a congressman who runs hard behind the Tea Party's message 'o fiscal responsibility makes viral YouTube videos castigatin' the POTUS fer keelhaulin' his children's financial future, then i want'm to actually walk it like he talks it, and not be a deadbeat father. shame on Mr. Walsh, aye...and shame on him fer thinkin' that he be exempt from the law 'n order 'o the land, by skippin' out on a court apppointment fer no good reason (his stated alibi was that he had to attend a vote in the House chamber....a vote that woulda passed overwhelmingly without his "aye" vote, and all he did anyways was to vote "present").

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate View Post
    *throws a pie at Mr. Obama*

    and i don't want me skipper puttin' someone like Timothy Geithner on the bridge and hand'm the purse strings, when he was incapable 'o even payin' his own taxes, absolutely agreed, mate. that appointment was not only errant, but also shows how craven Mr. Obama be to "pro-business" interests.

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    The best part about the Geithner appointment was the scandal came out as he was being appointed but Obama went ahead and appointed him, anyways. On top of that, it is only an appointment not an elected office, so you can just fire him at any time and put someone else there w/o the need for drastic measures, like a special election. Remember, these are Democrats, not TEA party members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    The best part about the Geithner appointment was the scandal came out as he was being appointed but Obama went ahead and appointed him, anyways. On top of that, it is only an appointment not an elected office, so you can just fire him at any time and put someone else there w/o the need for drastic measures, like a special election. Remember, these are Democrats, not TEA party members.
    ahoy Fishjoel,

    but imma agreein' with ye here, matey. imma not one who be defendin' Mr. Geithner's appointment. to be honest, i was goin' to unload me cannons in a long ago thread regardin' Mr. Obama's pick, yet held me fire because Tim (a now departed right leanin' poster with a firm grasp 'o economics and the business community, i respected Tim's acumen, though we disagreed on a number 'o topics) approved 'o puttin' Mr. Geithner in at Treasury.

    i mean, Mr. Geithner be not even the topic 'o this thread, oh wrestlin' Fishjoel, aye? the topic be congressperson Walsh.

    *scratches his noggin'*

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