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Old 06-23-2006, 05:59 AM
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Che was a brilliant tactician. His book on guerilla warfare eventually lead to his capture and unfortunately his death at the hands of the CIA.
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Old 06-23-2006, 06:03 AM
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Che was a brilliant tactician. His book on guerilla warfare eventually lead to his capture and unfortunately his death at the hands of the CIA.
Che was a terrible tactician. What about his tactics and military strategy do you find intelligent?
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Old 06-24-2006, 03:01 AM
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Che was a terrible tactician. What about his tactics and military strategy do you find intelligent?

Opinions are like..............well you know.

2 questions have or read his work? And have you ever fought a guerilla war?

His tactics were not flawed, his judgement may have been questionable.

His book was required reading in military counterguerilla training, at least in my day, but I cannot see his tactics being outdated.

If by your statement you mean because he got whacked in Bolivia, I would say that if thousands of man hours and millions of dollars are devoted to the elimination of a guerilla leader, it will be so. Ask Zarqawi.
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Old 06-24-2006, 03:32 AM
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I can't understand why anyone would honor this filthy murderer and consider him a hero. He helped create one of the world's worst dictatorships (Cuba) and tried to forment revolution in several other countries, some decent and some bad, in order to create other dictatorships.

Do you honor other people who promote abuse of human rights?
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:23 PM
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Chuq, I don't know how brilliant a tactician Che was since he made a colossal blunder by venturing to Bolivia without finding out more about the local situation. It led to his demise. I am frankly not familiar with the rift between him and Fidel Castro but given his penchant to throw rivals in jail and expunge them from history a la Stalin I would not be surprised.
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Old 07-07-2006, 04:53 AM
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As I said in previous post, his judgement may have been flawed, but tactics for guerilla warfare, he is a must reading along with Mao, Giap, and others.

As far as the 'rfift' between he and Fidel, I think may have been a propaganda coup for the US. If it was so awful why was he not exsponged from the 'official' history? And as far as Fidel being an awful 'murderer'. I believe with a little research worst can be found.

Because you do not agree with his political stance, does not make him any less a man. He died for what he believed in and for that reason I can respect the man. He died for his convictions not because some half witted leader told him to go die. It makes him more of a man than most.
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Old 08-10-2006, 04:12 AM
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Since no one is paying attention to these threads right now I thought I might get someone's attention--since Che has been accused of being a terrible tactician; I thoughtr I would point out that a lot of his tactics are being emplyed in Lebanon. Hezbollah has done what no standing Arab army has done--grind Israel to an impasse. I would point out you doubting thomases, you are wrong!!!
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Old 08-14-2006, 04:36 PM
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Hezbollah is cranking up the PR to characterize this conflict as their victory, but I don't think they could have withstood a longer campaign by IDF. Hopefully we will never know, but it says something about Hezbollah that they are crowing about "VICTORY". Tacky in my view, given the destruction of Lebanon. But that is not the topic of this thread. Che's reputation as a tactician...nobody can deny he was very successful until his final major blunder in Bolivia. After all, we all know who he is, do we not.
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Old 08-14-2006, 05:28 PM
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Because you do not agree with his political stance, does not make him any less a man. He died for what he believed in and for that reason I can respect the man. He died for his convictions not because some half witted leader told him to go die. It makes him more of a man than most.

Che was a priviledged child of an eltist feudal establishment which is carried on the backs of the poor indigenous people he claimed to fight for.

His fight was with himself and his own upbringing. Scapegoating his own guilt onto America was just a manifestation of his racism and prejudice. He wouldn't be the first Latino American to hate Gringoes.

Che accomplished nothing given that nothing has really changed in South America.

Che maybe the poster child of a romantic rebel, but he was also an angry priviledged child who wanted to destroy the world, evident by his pro-active role in the Cuban missile crisis.

And it only makes sense that it is angry, priviledged children whose parents pay for them to go to college who wear the "Che" T-shirts.
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:49 PM
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I wear a Che t-shirt sometimes... of course my PARENTS aren't paying for MY college. My brains and my sweat are.

If there was such a huge rift between Che and Fidel, why are there murals of Che in Cuba still, why does Fidel's best buddy Hugo Chavez give speeches infront of a hundred foot tall projection of the "the photo"?

I think Che didn't want to rest on his laurels. That is the number one reason I respect him.
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