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Old 08-05-2006, 05:42 AM
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Hialeah, FLPolice in Hialeah, Florida, have closed an abortion clinic after discovery of a dead 22-week old baby that a tipster said was born alive and killed by clinic staff. Police are conducting a homicide investigation while an autopsy is being performed on the infant’s body.
Operation Rescue will call for all clinic personnel, including abortionist Frantz Bazile, owners Belkis Gonzalez and Siomara Senises, to be prosecuted under the Federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act ( http://www.operationrescue.org/?page_id=439 ) if the autopsy indicates the baby was alive at birth.
Police have told reporters that an 18-year old girl who was 22 weeks pregnant went to A Gynecologists Diagnostic Center in the Miami suburb of Hialeah for an abortion and returned the following day in severe pain. She was informed that no doctor was present and was taken to a recovery area, where she delivered her premature baby. The baby was then taken from her and killed.

Source: http://www.operationrescue.org/?p=438

Commentary: This is just unbelievable that there are people out there capable of killing a baby in the name of there ideological agenda..
I couldn’t imagine killing a kitten or a puppy. How can someone of the human race be this empty and cold.
Before the Federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act, babies surviving abortions were placed on medical trays and placed in a back room “where the mother couldn’t hear it screaming” until it would die. There have been reports of mothers hearing the baby’s cries and begged the clinic workers to help it.
You pro-death people are sick puppies…
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Old 08-05-2006, 05:50 AM
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Gee, Operation Rescue is such a reliable source of information.



And, of course, anyone who supports abortion rights is obviously someone who takes great pleasure in crushing the skulls of crying infants under their jackboots.


Get a grip on reality, Hank.
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Old 08-05-2006, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: When is abortion murder?

Sounds to me like the clinic should be sued for gross incompetence if there's no applicable criminal law regarding torture or some such...
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after discovery of a dead 22-week old baby ... born alive and killed by clinic staff ... she delivered her premature baby. The baby was then taken from her and killed.
It took them Twenty-Two Weeks to kill the baby? Heck, any competent chicken farmer could do it in under 10 seconds if (s)he tried! But then, given that starvation should have taken care of things well before that 22 weeks was up, there must have been something supernatural going on, so it's either a Very Good thing that baby's dead, or a Very Bad one. If the world ends shortly, I guess we'll know...
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Old 08-06-2006, 03:30 AM
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Gee, Operation Rescue is such a reliable source of information.

You’ve got a key board, prove it wrong. (That’s what we do here…)

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And, of course, anyone who supports abortion rights is obviously someone who takes great pleasure in crushing the skulls of crying infants under their jackboots.
Most of them are simply brainwashed or empty.
The ones who do the killing use surgical tools to crush the skulls of the living screaming infant.

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Get a grip on reality, Hank.
Tell me about it.
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Old 08-06-2006, 09:12 AM
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Sounds to me like the clinic should be sued for gross incompetence if there's no applicable criminal law regarding torture or some such…
There are horrible stories: She began to bleed and go into labor. Despite her cries, no one assisted her. After one hard push, the baby was born, fully intact and definitely alive. Angele said, “His right leg moved. He curled up a bit, like he was cold; I screamed but no one came.” She pleaded for the clinic workers to call 911. But they did not.


Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/1390730/posts

There very cold and un-personal. I couldn’t even imagine allowing a dog die when all it would take is a phone call to save it’s life.
I mean, it was his life. Not the mothers or those who deceived her…

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Police in Hialeah, Florida, have closed an abortion clinic after discovery of a dead 22-week old baby that a tipster said was born alive and killed by clinic staff.
It took them Twenty-Two Weeks to kill the baby?
Assuming your dissatisfied with the word baby instead of fetus, may I remind you fetus (foetus) is Latin for “little one.” Also if they had been twins and one survived. It would be referred to as her sister being killed in the abortion.

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Heck, any competent chicken farmer could do it in under 10 seconds if (s)he tried!
She took almost 30 minutes to die.

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But then, given that starvation should have taken care of things well before that 22 weeks was up, there must have been something supernatural going on, so it's either a Very Good thing that baby's dead, or a Very Bad one. If the world ends shortly, I guess we'll know...
I see no humor on this subject. It is very disturbing and horrifying to me.
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:59 PM
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This makes me think I should start a new thread on the morality of abortion. Stay tuned.
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Old 08-07-2006, 04:13 AM
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Definitely.
They just went a bit to far on this one. There so far gone, I doubt if well ever get through to them that shit like this is not a matter of opinion.
People so wrapped up in what they believe to be an ideology or life philosophy that they don’t see what it is there doing.
They even oppose and fight anesthetic being given to the little one so they don’t have to admit it’s a baby. (A baby. “My God”, what in the hell are they doing.) Henceforth, the little one has to go through the pain of having it’s arms and legs ripped off and laid on a cold surgical tray to wait for death before they throw her away. Ya know, there is one thing they have right. “We just don’t get it.”

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I was very much looking forward to my life in this world.
I wanted to have dolls, ride a bike, go to the circus, and see the zoo.
I looked forward to celebrating Christmas and birthday parties with my mommy.
I'm very sad I never got to do any of these things. My parents did not let me be born.
But I just don't understand one thing -- why didn't any of you help me? I wish you had. Nobody
heard my crying voice.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:07 AM
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Wouldn't prevention be better than abortion?
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:14 AM
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You’ve got a key board, prove it wrong. (That’s what we do here…)
How? How many news sources write stories about stuff that didn't happen? How can I cite those non-stories?



If you're going to make a claim, you're the one who needs to back it up.

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Most of them are simply brainwashed or empty.
The ones who do the killing use surgical tools to crush the skulls of the living screaming infant.
Right. Of course. That's how it is.



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Tell me about it.
Tell you about what? Reality? You're obviously not interested in actually seeing or hearing about it.
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:33 AM
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Definitely.
They just went a bit to far on this one. There so far gone, I doubt if well ever get through to them that shit like this is not a matter of opinion.
People so wrapped up in what they believe to be an ideology or life philosophy that they don’t see what it is there doing.
They even oppose and fight anesthetic being given to the little one so they don’t have to admit it’s a baby. (A baby. “My God”, what in the hell are they doing.) Henceforth, the little one has to go through the pain of having it’s arms and legs ripped off and laid on a cold surgical tray to wait for death before they throw her away. Ya know, there is one thing they have right. “We just don’t get it.”
I agree that this incident represents what can be attroceous about abortion, but this is not the common situation, it is avery very isolated incident. and whe reason I am opposed to mid and late term abortion. By and large, abortions are performed during the first trimester when the body is only prtially formed. further, on a duifferent tack: this so called Quote is a false quote and is not allowed according to the rules.

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I was very much looking forward to my life in this world.
I wanted to have dolls, ride a bike, go to the circus, and see the zoo.
I looked forward to celebrating Christmas and birthday parties with my mommy.
I'm very sad I never got to do any of these things. My parents did not let me be born.
But I just don't understand one thing -- why didn't any of you help me? I wish you had. Nobody
heard my crying voice.
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