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Old 04-20-2006, 06:43 AM
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Default China--Vietname war

this is not a well-known war,it was happened from 1979 to 1989.it lasted 10 years,and so many Vietnamese dead for this war.
I think many body forget this war.although in China and Vietnam,both CN and VN government are not mention this war.you can't find this history in CN&VN history book...

why did China attack Vietnam? in Vietnam forum,you just can hear one sound:because China leader want to destroy Vietnam.and some Vietnamese really believe it. of course,China leader don't want to destroy Vietnam,if China leader really did it,then the first war wasn't last just 18 days.

Although CN government don't mention in public,but in our China-Vietnam war forum,many vietran talk this war.and some of my classmate's father joined that war.so i know some about this war.

I know,in Western world,media said China invaded Vietnam in 1979.but I think not many people know the real reason to cause that war.it's really a complicated war.it difficutlt to explain it.

just Chinese and Vietnamese fought in battlefield,but in back ground,you can see 4 country:China,Vietnam,Russia,US.don't be surprise,US didn't joined that war,but really play an important role in the 4 country realtion.

to know this war,I think i should talk it from 1946.
aftern WWII came to the end,in 1946,began "cold war".as you know,one side is Soviet Russia,one side is NATO.China didn't join any side

1950s,Korea war broke out.US sent troops to Korea,and for keep US Army far away from China---North Korea border.China sent troops to Korea too.in this time,US is China's enemy.China is Russia's ally.

1963,Russia leader said China leader didn't support Russia in "Cuba missile case",(everyone know Russian want to settled missile in a Cuba island which near US).since that year,Russia and China's realtion is being bad.in the same time,US soldiers fought with North Vietnamese in Vietname war.and both China and Russian support North Vietnam.in this time:China is not Russia's ally,and is not Russia's enemy.but both China and Russia conside US is their enemy,they have a same ally:Vietnam

1969,in the North China--Russia border,break war.since that year,China is being Russia's enemy.in Vietnam,war wasn't came to the end.Russia and China still support North Vietnam:although war break between China and Russia.

1970,American figure out Chinese are not slave for Russian.so,for unite China against Russia.President Nixon visit China,and met China's leader Mao Ze Dong in Beijing.it is very interesting:US and China are Russia's enemy,North Vietnam is Russia and China's ally,US is North Vietnam's enemy.in Shanghai,some Vietnamese know Nixon visit China,they decide to protest,but Chinese stop them.since that year,China and Vietnam's realtion is being bad.

1975,South Vietnam,Saigong fall down.VC unify Vietnam.

since 1976,Vietnam Government want to Chinese who were live in Vietnam adopted Vietnam.if he/she disagree,then disport them back to China.so, many Chinese leave their home.some vietnamese (most are soldiers) attack them when they on their way back to China:Vietnamese insult,hurt ,maltreat them.this is one reason cause that war,but is not the most important

the most important reason is:since VC unify Vietnam,they conside their North neighbor Country(China) threat them:because China is a big country.so they conside they want to establish"Indochina Federation"to shield China,at the same time,since 1969 break war,Russian want to stop China being strong.so Russian and Vietnamese sign a new military treaty in 1978.this treaty used for boycott China.

for established "Indochina Federation",Vietnam attack Kampuchea,and taken that country's capital in 1978.at the same time,Vietnamese attack Thailand in Vietnam-Thailand border.

in Vietnam forum,Vietnamese confess since 1978,Vietnamese ready to fight with Chinese.since French invade Vietnam,they give Vietnamese and Chinese a big problem in Border.in 1978,Vietnamese(police and soldiers) and Chinese(ordinary person and soldiers) often fought for border,Chinese didn't shoot to Vietnamese,just used stone and stick.but Vietnamese used gun too,so,many Chinese(I don't know the correct number) were shot down by Vietnamese.

1979, new year.China's leader Deng Xiao Ping visit US.in this trip,American didn't promise they don't protect Taiwan.but China still have decided on the establishment of diplomatic relations with US.this cause Russian and Vietnamese unhappy.
before he visit US serval month ago,he met a singapor official(Li Guang Yao),he said,China maybe attack Vietnam,teach Vietanam a lesson.

Feb,17,1979.China attack Vietnam....
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Old 04-20-2006, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: China--Vietname war

In Vietnam ,call this war"North border war"

in China,call this war"self defence border war",China declear war on Vietnam in names of defence border.

of course,you know,China's real aim is :
1,defence border;
2,To take revenge on Vietnam. because Vietnamese killed many Chinese before war;
3,the most important aim:China wish attack Vietnam can make Vietnamese withdraw troops from Kampuchea.if Vietnamese did it,then it can't established"Indochina Federation".
4,many Asian Country(such as Thailand, Laos)afraid Vietnam attack them after they conquer Kampuchea,so they glad to see China teach Vietnam a lesson.in that war,they are in neutrality side.
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Old 05-29-2006, 02:15 AM
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You know,in Kampuchea many Chinese were killed.But Dengxiaoping says nothing.
I've read lots of books and Articles about Korea War and Vietnam War,the only conclusion is WE ARE ALWAYS the AGGRESSOR.
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Old 05-31-2006, 04:29 AM
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You know,in Kampuchea many Chinese were killed.But Dengxiaoping says nothing.
I've read lots of books and Articles about Korea War and Vietnam War,the only conclusion is WE ARE ALWAYS the AGGRESSOR.
well,westerner sais we lose Korea war,because we lose 500,000 soldiers.
Ok,if dead soldiers is the condition of the victory.then in Vietnam war,we lose about 15,000 soldiers,but we killed 35,000 regular Vietname soldiers,and we killed about 50,000 Vietnam militia man.this is truth,foreign media said we lost 27,000 soldiers,our government said we lose about 6,000 soldiers,they are all told our lies,some guys went to Yun Nan province and Guang Xi province to count the grave,and the number is 15,000. Vietnam dead soldiers more than ours,you know,we got the number by count vietnamese's dead body.in North Vietnam,Vietnamese still hate Chinese,because Chinese killed so many Vietnamese in that days,our troops destroy North Vietnam,our gunner carpet shelled Vietnam's city and destroy 4 vietnam cities,we used 5 million cannonball to shell Vietnam,this number more than Korea war.

we lose many soldiers because our logistical support was not well.our soldiers have enough bullet,but their have not enough food,and the wounded soldiers didn't cure well.you know,we often fought with Vietnamese in jungle.I read a vietran's article,he said,when he joined the battle to destroy Vietnam Army the 316th division(the best Vietname's troop,their weapon are made in Russia).that battle last 7 days,a vice-army commander drive tank enter the Vietname city's center and we destroy this city.in that battle,many wounded soldiers didn't cure well,our army have not enough medic to save them,and they dead on the way to back to home.

don't believe Fa Lungong and others.CCP is not good,but our soldiers are ood.in Fa lungong website,Fa lungong cheat us,they said:China government give Vietname much land.such as Laoshan mountain (老山).this is not truth,Laoshan mountain is still ours.in fact,Vietnam lose the war,China and Vietnam signed a border treaty,in this treaty,Vietnam government can send soldier partol the board,but they can't station troops in board.China can station troops in board.

and we know,foreign newsman had never been to the battlefield,how did they know what happened in there?
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:01 AM
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noco,listen different sounds,here is a very interesting web adress,please read it.
http://w1w1.bokee.com/3820448.html

and i doubt the first article is writen by Fa lungong practiser.pay attention to the writer's word,it's funny

and in this webpage,there are some foreign media report,you can read it.
http://www.milnews.com/lib/zybjz/
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:24 AM
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You know,in Kampuchea many Chinese were killed.But Dengxiaoping says nothing.
Kampuchea?what?

here
http://tt.mop.com/club/read_104932,5.html
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:47 AM
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here is a Vietnamese thread,he has not enough pictures,and he got many from china forum,this is a well-known thread
don't care that vietnamese's word.and don't angry with him,because we are winner,we own Laoshan mountain,and we own south china sea.if we lost that war,then Laoshan mountain and south china are under Vietnam's control!!!
in that thread,he made many mistake,he can call a China soldiers who hand rifle 'POW',haha.in that thread,he show us the Chinese sabotaged their city...,I am sorry to see ,there's no useful.why didn't he show us Vietnamese how to treat China POWs during the war?so cruelty!!!everybody knows Vietnamese treat POW very cruelty:hang POW, or sink POW in river....etc.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...r=asc&start=30

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I was!
Source:
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http://www.ttvnol.com

I will visit the above links
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: China--Vietname war

I thought the war was because of Vietnam's invasion of Cambodia?
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Old 06-01-2006, 05:01 AM
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I thought the war was because of Vietnam's invasion of Cambodia?
To my knowledge, it was because of the ethnic cleansing of Chinese within Vietnam, as well as Vietnam's invasion of Cambodia.
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Old 06-01-2006, 06:43 AM
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Kampuchea=Cambodia,I find this in dictionary.
both of you are right.
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