Numbers: http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~jobrien/reference/ob62.html

Basically WHO CARES that Patton MAY have killed 500 SS Soldiers...they MORE than deserved it.
SS Soldiers were the hardliners - they are THE ones responsible for the death toll...you can say the average soldier was just doing his duty - but the SS...they KNEW what was going on.

True enough, but it still is intriguing how they hid the fact that it happened.

Not really. Patton did alot of questionable things - yet without him the European theatre would have lasted perhaps 2-3 years longer..therefore perhaps as many as 1-2 million more would have died.
Back then the military "did what it had to do" to win.
We had a glimpse of that in the 1st Iraq war....in a few weeks the 5th largest Army in the world was reduced to rubble. I would think a few things we don't know about happened then as well....but then Saddam both directly and indirectly killed an estimated 250,000 - 500,000 citizens and invaded two countries, the ends justified the means.

1.THE NUMBER:
I will see the article then.But whatever in PRC or REPUBLIC OF CHINA,the number is hard to be accepted.

2.I gave the links for discuss as a historical case.But I am not sure I had enough details.I wrote"The author said...",that means it is not what I said.So please,I am caring the facts and details.

Now,I care information(especially different details),but not moral evaluation

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noco - consider the source you have been fed.
It isn't about moral equivilance.
It is about numbers.
Patton did what he did...some certainly questionable...but the end justified the method he used.
In fighting the European theatre the way he did...he saved perhaps millions of lives as the war would have lasted longer without him, and his ways.

We have a saying here noco....there are circumstances where you can't argue with success.

For more information here:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=43919
I found it an hour ago.It is a ww2 discuss forum.The link I gave "quarrelled" a lot.
History,I think,first is facts and details,then comment it.

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I live in ccp.But books I read and webs I found are not all made by ccp.
And more...Do you think Taiwan is controlled by ccp?



I am here.I am happy to get more information.What is the number?I mean I had read a lot about the case.But it is hard for me to say Buechner was a liar.

And Paton....He is a hero,I am sure.In this case,I just what exctly he did and why.



What do you think I gave this threat?I am not here for being a teacher or a boxer.
And the sentence "We have a saying here....".....It lets me think our Cultural Revolution.

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I live in ccp>>>I live in ccp's land

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Sorry I have no facts about it. But I can tell you what every Austrian would agree immideately.

The western Allied forces treated the Axis soldiers in POW generally good, for example one of my grandfathers, never complained about his internment in Egypt after the war. They had to work, but got enough to eat and drink, they were no victimized etc. In general I think this is true for the whole internment system of the western allied forces. The best was btw if you were caught by Americans that was like winning the Jackpot for the soldiers, and they knew it. 2nd place if it were the Brits, 3rd when the French. But all those together were a good choice when you prefered to not only survive but also not to suffer during internment. Whereas under the Americans the caught soldiers could even have a good time of course while considering the situation they were in of being inmates.

So these were the options every single German soldier at the end of the war prayed for. And then there was the 4th option. Being caught by the Russians.

Those who were lucky were interned in the west of the Soviet empire, or in what became afterwards the East block. That meant sufferage sickness, but still good chances to survive the years of internment in case you were a healty robust man. The further east you got the worse it became. With the ultimative horror of the Gulags in Siberia.

Someone I know was only one day at the east front (to be exact at what was still called front, but was only a retreat and flying from the soviets anymore), he did not shoot a single time. He has killed nobody nor was of any advantage for the Wehrmacht in the last days, nonetheless he was transferred to Siberia into the feared Gulags. Its a wonder that he is still alive, after all, the majority of those who came to the Gulags did not leave it alive. Not to speak about coming home again anymore. Hundret thousands of normal soldiers found their death in those forced labour camps, where they had to work extremely hard at Siberian temperatures with food rations that were completely rotten and far to less even for people doing nothing at all.

These were the war crimes in the POW camps, and it was large scale.



I told this to you just to get an idea of proportions. Back to your case again, it may have been a crime. But unless there do not appear some proofs I do not see much need to burry it out again. Lets talk about the criminal bombardments of the cities like Dresden. That would be worth more effort.

Noco,what's this masscre in Chinese(这次屠杀的中文翻译是什么？）?i have never listened it before.it's terrible.
I just searched this in internet:
A city of southeast Germany north-northwest of Munich. It was the site of a Nazi concentration camp built in 1935 and captured by the Allies in April 1945. Population, 33,141.
in this link,the author said German masscre Jews and Allies POWs.did american really masscre Germany POWs here?creul human.
http://raoliang.blog.163.com/article/-3pZW-o9gloO.html

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