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Old 06-11-2006, 11:52 AM
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Regarding burning the mexican flag - its only a piece of fabric. What does it stand for??? YOu can burn Old GLory all day - the ideas behind the flag are what matters.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:47 AM
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"Mexican" is equivilant to the rest of the world's chopped usage of "American." Mexican-Spanish is not equivilant to Formal-Spanish, or traditional-spanish. Anymore than American english is equivilant to Formal-English or traditional-english.

Mexico has it's own dialects of "Mexican" much as there are different dialects of "American."

You can hardly compare average British speech to average American speech. The languages have split from their origins just enough to be distinguished as their own dialect.

The same can be said about modern day Mexican-Spanish, and (Mexican derived) American-Spanish. There's a whole second-person pronoun and pronoun agreement that is not used in Mexico or the States, but is in most of the rest of the hispanohablante world. Think of "Mexican" as the dialect, much as to most of the informal world the president speaks "American" and not "South-Western-American-English."
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Old 06-14-2006, 02:55 PM
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"Mexican" is equivilant to the rest of the world's chopped usage of "American." Mexican-Spanish is not equivilant to Formal-Spanish, or traditional-spanish. Anymore than American english is equivilant to Formal-English or traditional-english.

Mexico has it's own dialects of "Mexican" much as there are different dialects of "American."

You can hardly compare average British speech to average American speech. The languages have split from their origins just enough to be distinguished as their own dialect.

The same can be said about modern day Mexican-Spanish, and (Mexican derived) American-Spanish. There's a whole second-person pronoun and pronoun agreement that is not used in Mexico or the States, but is in most of the rest of the hispanohablante world. Think of "Mexican" as the dialect, much as to most of the informal world the president speaks "American" and not "South-Western-American-English."
Agreed. For two years I worked around and spoke Spanish with many laborers at a job here in Texas. What I learned in High school for 4 years (classical Spanish, a la Spain, which is what the elderly in my family speak) and what the ones here spoke can very well be compared to British/American dialects.
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Old 07-13-2006, 12:00 AM
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Wow, people a flag is just a peice of cloth with paint on it, it's a symbol and nothing more, and you know what, maybe at all highschools we should have many different flags flying, like the flags of Britian, France, Canada, Mexico, China, as many flags that can be flown, and intersperse them throughout the school. Such an idea would create a semblance of togetherness, rather than division.
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Old 07-13-2006, 01:46 AM
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Wow, people a flag is just a peice of cloth with paint on it, it's a symbol and nothing more, and you know what, maybe at all highschools we should have many different flags flying, like the flags of Britian, France, Canada, Mexico, China, as many flags that can be flown, and intersperse them throughout the school. Such an idea would create a semblance of togetherness, rather than division.
Why should we fly flags of other countries when we're the UNITED STATES?
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:19 AM
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Wow, people a flag is just a peice of cloth with paint on it, it's a symbol and nothing more, and you know what, maybe at all highschools we should have many different flags flying, like the flags of Britian, France, Canada, Mexico, China, as many flags that can be flown, and intersperse them throughout the school. Such an idea would create a semblance of togetherness, rather than division.
Let me get this straight -- fly flags and celebrate multiple countries rather than one...to promote unity? Interesting...
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Old 07-15-2006, 08:43 AM
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Deny it all you want. I can't make you face the truth. You have to come to that conclusion on your own.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/mexico/means.html
Nice cut and paste. Would you mind telling us what it says about legal and illegal immigrants, welfare and welfare fraud?
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