The Senate bill states that people will have to pay back taxes. Well, the senate is not allowed to pass "revenue-raising" legislation (article I, section 7).

Here's the part I like, even though it is unconstitutional, Harry Reid said that this concern can be ignored! WTF?! Ignore the constitution?

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...1142-2773r.htm

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Interesting. Yet many advocates of illegal immigrants foam at the mouth to point out other parts of the Constitution that they believe will validate their stay here (e.g. The fourteenth amendment as a means to keep anchor babies.) Why can't we just ignore that part as well? Ohhh, yes. Yes, I see now...

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Wow, I'm pretty shocked that this particular thread hasn't had more responses, as it tells of a congressional leader insinuating that something in the Constitution is unimportant enough to just gloss over in the Senate agenda for blanket amnesty. Interesting...I wonder how much action the threads with anti-War or anti-Gay Marriage titles are getting.

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Me too. I wonder why.

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Perhaps because no one really excpect the Senate bill to prevail!

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Well, I'm sure the Senate bill is probably not going to survive. I was actually just curious as to why not as many (repub or dems) are responding to this instance of "Well...it's just a part of the constitution we can ignore." Isn't it Bush and Co. that are given that title of disregarding the Constitution (Patriot Act, etc.) when moving along in their agenda? Where are all of those people now? Is this not just as bad? Funny, this doesn't seem to bother most.

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It isn't that a violation of the constitution doesn't bother most, it is just that currently they are only talking about a bill that may violate the constitution. If it passes in the Senate form, which is very doubtfull, then we will have a probable violation of the constitution, one that will end up in the USSC. Right now most of us are more concerned with getting the border secure and insuring there is no amnesty provision in whatever is passed.

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I suspect 90% of what the Senate passes contains Something that is unconstitutional, and it's been going on for decades, so why start caring now? Whether the OP's analysis applies depends on whether the taxes Applied to the immigrants at the time but went unpaid or if they did not apply to the immigrants and are made to by the new legislation. In the case of the former, it's simply an adjustment in how the tax laws are administered and there's no problem. In the case of the latter, yes it is unconstitutional.

Hmmm... Since our officials are so adept at saying one thing while implementing 'unintended consequences' that fit their needs, and seem so eager to hand the country over to the Mexicans, there's a good chance this is not by chance. "Don't fret America, we'll grant them amnesty and citizenship, but they'll pay back taxes, which makes the whole deal fair!" ... "Oops, how were we to know the back taxes thing would be thrown out and we'd be giving them all citizenship for free? Oh, and this novembre, be sure to remember your amigo, Sam O. Blowhard, por favor!"

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Harry Reid obviously is playing politics here.

He knows if the Dems/Senate ignore the bill then someone in the House will put in what is called a "Blue slip" that will send the bill back to the Senate.

A "blue slip" is used for bills that are found with unconstitutional mistakes or other procedure problems.

This would embarrass the Republicans in the Senate on such a major issue to the American that it would make them look unfit to run Congress. Hence, the political reasons.

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"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves." - Ronald Reagan

Uhm, this is not a revenue-raising bill. It is a bill to mandate illegal aliens who wish to pursue a guest worker and potentially earned citizenship tp pay past due taxes. That is to obey the US law as per IRC. Under the IRC, when an illegal is present in the US for more than 183 days, then that person becomes a resident alien for tax purpose and subject to reporting all income whereever the source is derived on tax return. How that person reports it and using either an incorrect SSN or a valid ITIN is part of that "earned citizenship."

However, when the House passes its version and the bill goes to conference, I suspect earned citizenship will be eliminated.