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Old 06-20-2006, 08:28 PM
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And let's not forget WEB's non-existent argument to which he won't link but will always mention!
Non-existent in your mind, Slon, just like your "victories."
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Old 06-20-2006, 09:32 PM
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Non-existent in your mind, Slon, just like your "victories."
So explain to everyone why you wouldn't link to your argument the numerous times I asked you to do it.
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Old 06-21-2006, 11:15 AM
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I agree So Fucking What! It just makes me want to learn Spanish and glad that I will get lots of chances to practise speaking it. What's so scary about Spanish speaking people anyway? A wall is a really dumb waste of my tax dollars. All we have to do is enforce the laws we already have. Fine the employers and deport the illegal workers. The bill has no chance of passing. The laws won't be enforced. The illegals will all stay. Because the rich are making money off them and the Republicans love money!
Ummm, did you read the original post? Do you have any idea how much illegals are costing us everyday? Just one day without them would pay for a wall, and a moat, and much more...

If you want to learn English that's great. I however, do not. In fact, I resent the necessity of needing to learn a foreign language in my own country.
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Old 06-21-2006, 11:17 AM
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Build the wall... A few interlocking .50's would be nice... Just the presence would do the trick I think...
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Old 06-23-2006, 10:34 AM
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A wall would be nice, but the real deterrent would be if we punished employers of illegal immigrants. By incrementally punishing employers, immigrants will have no where to go and would not have a reason any more to come here. Also, the danger of not forcing immigrants to learn English is that it fosters allegiance to another country. I support controlled immigration, but if the immigrant is only here because we have the most advantagous policies and not because he believes in our way of life, then he is only leeching off of the USA and would not defend it in time of war.
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Old 06-23-2006, 10:43 AM
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A wall is needed to stop:

40 percent of all workers are working for cash and not paying taxes. Why would they want to be legal and pay taxes? They would be able to start bringing the rest of their families to the USA.

75 percent of people on L.A.’s most-wanted list are illegal aliens.

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A wall OR we stop PAYING them to COME here.

Why would they stop COMING here illegally, when we ENCOURAGE and INVITE them IN ?

They can get free health care free ... almost EVERYTHING. I don't BLAME them.

Hey, if some drunk millionaire stands on the streetcorner waving hundred dollar bills around yelling "Money.... free money." would you just walk right by without getting some ?
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:10 PM
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A wall OR we stop PAYING them to COME here.

Why would they stop COMING here illegally, when we ENCOURAGE and INVITE them IN ?

They can get free health care free ... almost EVERYTHING. I don't BLAME them.

Hey, if some drunk millionaire stands on the streetcorner waving hundred dollar bills around yelling "Money.... free money." would you just walk right by without getting some ?
I agree. Border security is an absolute must -- however, it must go hand in hand with taking away the magnet, the money they come for. If they know there is something waiting for them then they will find a way to bypass our system like before. This goes for the anchor baby b.s. as well. If they know that they will get a pass by coming here and having a kid then what good does border security mean? We must enforce the borders and stop the problems here as well.
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:20 PM
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IMO we should just build a minefield.
You don't think that's overkill? Do you think that the problem is serious enough to merit the staggering and gruesome collateral damage that would ensue?
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:21 PM
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I agree. Border security is an absolute must -- however, it must go hand in hand with taking away the magnet, the money they come for. If they know there is something waiting for them then they will find a way to bypass our system like before. This goes for the anchor baby b.s. as well. If they know that they will get a pass by coming here and having a kid then what good does border security mean? We must enforce the borders and stop the problems here as well.
Well, unfortunately things WILL be quicker by building a freakin' WALL. Try to get the idiots running the govt. to do anything quickly with common sense .... like, say removing the motivations they have to find a way INTO our country ? That may take hundreds of years. By which time it won't even BE an issue any longer

When the people running a country become stupider and lazier than the citizenry, there's going to be problems. That's where we are now.
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:00 PM
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may take hundreds of years. By which time it won't even BE an issue any longer

When the people running a country become stupider and lazier than the citizenry, there's going to be problems. That's where we are now.
Of course, it won't an issue because we'll be The North American Community without liberty of sovereignty. Of course, that's a completely different topic (sort of.)
I think the government by way of hoping that the people are idiots and lazy they have in turn become the same way. Only thing is who is going to be unlazy enough to stand up for their ground first? I'm hoping it's the citizens, the taxpayers, the ones who work for these rights and not just want them given.
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