I dont know too much about Nigeria either. Just that it is split up into a Christian south and a Muslim north and allways on the brink or actually in the sate of civil war between both groups. I guess its a rather difficult place to live.


An interesting thing I observe is that there is quite an observable number of mixed pairs in Austria. It seems a certain number of black immigrants set all their cards on getting an Austrian girlfriend. With the aim of marriage. I have heard furthermore they quite actively try then to flirt with them in bars etc to succeed in that.

What I think about it? I think its cool, its somewhat the best that could happen. How could they better become integrated into the European society than with having a European wife? (Btw those girlfriends of blacks are often quite a eye catch, not necessarely those who have to look where someone is left for them...) Furthermore they can flee the devil-circle with that through becoming European citizen, with contact to our society and without getho building.

Sadly it seems though that quite a considerable number of the illegal immigrants see no other chance as to engage in drug dealing. Especially gangs of Nigerian origin seem to be very active here. Those guys are taken than as excuse of racist Austrians who would prefer to see those "Neger" as slaves or sent back to Africa instead of having them here anyway. Its freaking me out who appearantly intolerant still many people are when seeing black people. I even find myself sometimes staring at them, but you have to know that until a few years ago there hardly was any black to find anywhere on the countryside. Its changing now. I guess in the cities like Vienna people are allready more "used" to it.

I was under the impression that promoting the general welfare included ensuring enough stability to enable local markets to flourish.

I agree with you that education is important, however, education does not exclude labor from engaging in infrastructure development. By creating another market for labor, the local populace will be able to help their own local economy by having a more consistent revenue base.

Welfare-state economics will always be more cost effective than any warfare-state economic model, ceteris paribus.

Well, anyway. It would be a whole field of studies how to help the African continent the best way.

My point would be more that it is highly unrealistically to think that Europe could significantly reduce the poverty and the lack of perspectives even at midterm. This definitely would need greater financial investment than Europe is able to give. Morevore the most fundamental problem of all, ie establishing peace and order, is something no money on the whole world will get it done.

I am not sure that Europe alone would not be able to solve its current migration issues coming from Africa.

I am mostly sure that using welfare-state economics in solving the problem of immigration from third world countries would be less expensive than the warfare-state model we are currently using.

What "warfare-state" model? Shutting down the borders is not really warfare, is it?

And there hardly is a thing that is more difficult than effective third world aid. Its not that no one tried before, but good meant is often enought the opposite of good. Sometimes the aid even hinders any sustainable developement. (eg food aid, the simple picture of "feeding the world" by flying all the food that is not needed in the west to the hungry in Africa. This is good as short term means to prevent starvation, but when no reasonable campaign follows that ensure them to feed themselves in future it just makes everything even worse)

And I highly doubt that helping to recover the African economy could help to reduce the immigration numbers anytime soon. Even the best "welfare" stuff could not make any differences in the next few decades.