Thread: CA Cities Crack Down On Job-Stealing Illegals

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Agreed.

And once companies across America see the fed is serious about cracking down on companies that hire illegals, there will be less companies hiring them.

For the moment, a handful of courageous cities are leading the way.

And like the man quoted in the OP said, when they close down a Wal-Mart or a McDonalds for violations, then everyone will most certainly pay attention.

Hopefully very soon.

the govt. has been cracking down on companies and they are hurting the illegals and the companies that hire them.

Originally Posted by pramjockey

Because the US has one of (if not the - can't remember and can't be arsed to google it) longest unsecured borders in the world. To secure the borders of the USA to prevent any and all unwanted movement across said borders would require incredible capital and person-hour expenditures.

So, how much are you willing to spend?

Actually, our Northern border is becoming quite large in imported drugs and illegals. There's only about 30 miles of it that is secure. The border between the US and Canada is the largest unsecured border in the world.

We cannot secure either our Northern nor Southern borders. Even if that was possible, illegals and drugs would pour in from the Eastern and Western waters. Illegal immigration must be dealt with on the reason why they are coming here, and that is companies that hire them, mostly knowing they are illegal. Control the hiring and it becomes a non-issue.

But of course, the cons here don't even see that, and they support a party that gets kickbacks from those companies hiring illegals .

Originally Posted by pramjockey

Because the US has one of (if not the - can't remember and can't be arsed to google it) longest unsecured borders in the world. To secure the borders of the USA to prevent any and all unwanted movement across said borders would require incredible capital and person-hour expenditures.

So, how much are you willing to spend?

Pretty much. The costs of truly securing our Mexican border would probably exceed our expenditures in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

We need to open up the visa system so that there is a functional market for tracking laborers and ensuring they pay into the system.

Originally Posted by pramjockey

Because the US has one of (if not the - can't remember and can't be arsed to google it) longest unsecured borders in the world. To secure the borders of the USA to prevent any and all unwanted movement across said borders would require incredible capital and person-hour expenditures.

So, how much are you willing to spend?

We're talking about our southern border where all the problem is. We had a fence building project that was ordered by Bush that Obama stopped. That needs to be completed. Fences work and they've worked all over the world. Now we toughing our laws and place illegals in a compound in the desert where they live in a tent compound. First offense 6 months, second offense 1 yr, third offense 2 yrs.

Now fire all the federal agents that are running around checking businesses that do absolutely no good and fire all of them and use that money on the border.

So in the end once the fence is built you need fewer agents on the border and you don't need any agents checking business. Now with the expected jail built cheap in the desert with barb-wire and tents they spend time in a compound. Between these two added security measure illegals will first have a hard time coming across and if caught they go to a compound to think hard about doing it again because next time it's a year in the compound. Problem solved and a whole lot of money saved and we protect our jobs for American's not illegals.

So when you add up the cost of illegals, we educate them, we provide health care for them, they take good American Jobs causing unemployment insurance payments, fire all the agents patrolling businesses, and reduce our border guards as a result of a fence. We're saving more each and every year which would cure the problem and reduce cost.

Originally Posted by Occam's Razor

Pretty much. The costs of truly securing our Mexican border would probably exceed our expenditures in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

We need to open up the visa system so that there is a functional market for tracking laborers and ensuring they pay into the system.

Translated, you want an open border, and when they take a good American job you want them to pay into the system. Good luck tracking illegals, we can't find then now.

Originally Posted by Forplay

We're talking about our southern border where all the problem is. We had a fence building project that was ordered by Bush that Obama stopped. That needs to be completed. Fences work and they've worked all over the world. Now we toughing our laws and place illegals in a compound in the desert where they live in a tent compound. First offense 6 months, second offense 1 yr, third offense 2 yrs.

Now fire all the federal agents that are running around checking businesses that do absolutely no good and fire all of them and use that money on the border.

So in the end once the fence is built you need fewer agents on the border and you don't need any agents checking business. Now with the expected jail built cheap in the desert with barb-wire and tents they spend time in a compound. Between these two added security measure illegals will first have a hard time coming across and if caught they go to a compound to think hard about doing it again because next time it's a year in the compound. Problem solved and a whole lot of money saved and we protect our jobs for American's not illegals.

So when you add up the cost of illegals, we educate them, we provide health care for them, they take good American Jobs causing unemployment insurance payments, fire all the agents patrolling businesses, and reduce our border guards as a result of a fence. We're saving more each and every year which would cure the problem and reduce cost.

Fences do not work, have not worked, are quite easy to go around, and how do you fence the oceans.

You'd to away with what does work, fine those companies that hire illegals, but of course, that's what business wants. Since they fund the your sources of Faux news, that's all you've got.

Originally Posted by Forplay

We're talking about our southern border where all the problem is. We had a fence building project that was ordered by Bush that Obama stopped. That needs to be completed. Fences work and they've worked all over the world. Now we toughing our laws and place illegals in a compound in the desert where they live in a tent compound. First offense 6 months, second offense 1 yr, third offense 2 yrs.

Now fire all the federal agents that are running around checking businesses that do absolutely no good and fire all of them and use that money on the border.

So in the end once the fence is built you need fewer agents on the border and you don't need any agents checking business. Now with the expected jail built cheap in the desert with barb-wire and tents they spend time in a compound. Between these two added security measure illegals will first have a hard time coming across and if caught they go to a compound to think hard about doing it again because next time it's a year in the compound. Problem solved and a whole lot of money saved and we protect our jobs for American's not illegals.

So when you add up the cost of illegals, we educate them, we provide health care for them, they take good American Jobs causing unemployment insurance payments, fire all the agents patrolling businesses, and reduce our border guards as a result of a fence. We're saving more each and every year which would cure the problem and reduce cost.

The Great Wall of China could not stop the Mongols.

Originally Posted by Occam's Razor

We need to open up the visa system so that there is a functional market for tracking laborers and ensuring they pay into the system.

Absolutely not!

We cannot have wage-slave labor pouring into our country and putting American citizens out of work under any monitoring circumstances.

The illegals influx is an invasion -- that is the accurate description of it.

The invasion needs to be repelled.

Repulsion includes blocking the borders, truly cracking down on traffickers and U.S. companies that hire illegals.

This is a battle for American jobs that rightly belong to American citizens and legal immigrants, jobs that are being stolen by the invading illegals and the unscrupulous business owners that hire them.

There is no other way to secure Americans' jobs than to crack down on all of the three problems Steve mentioned above.

The border can be blocked with air stealth defenses and affordable fencing and border guards .. and it must be.

This is a war.

It is a war American working citizens cannot afford to lose.

Originally Posted by ConLib

Fences do not work, have not worked, are quite easy to go around, and how do you fence the oceans.

You'd to away with what does work, fine those companies that hire illegals, but of course, that's what business wants. Since they fund the your sources of Faux news, that's all you've got.

Let me put it this way where the Bush fence was built it does work, that's a fact. Does it stop 100% no but damn close.

I said our Southern border is the problem, what ocean is there?

You have no idea that has worked, let me put it this way. There are 20 to 30 million illegals in this country and these illegal’s are in every fabric of our work force and this is a partial list of good American jobs illegal’s are taking; heavy construction, home builders, ranches, farms, hotel, motels, factories of every kind and description, road builders, slaughter houses, housekeepers, nannies’s, care givers, landscapers, gardeners, cooks, truck drivers, janitors, commercial fisherman, etc etc. They are in every state and every working environment, even Powell’s house.

And you believe Big Daddy Government is going to track down every business in this country and raid them, or are they going into each and every home and raid them to see if they have a nanny, house keeper, gardener, or care giver. Their going to track down every motel and hotel for house keepers and every restaurant in this country. etc etc etc. What planet are you living on.

The only reason you don't want a wall and illegals put into a compound is because you want an open border. You use the excuse that Big Daddy has to clean house on all the homes and bossiness in America that you say will solve the problem. You only say that because you know it does not work and you use it as a smoke screen to hide your true belief of an open border.

Originally Posted by Moonglow

The Great Wall of China could not stop the Mongols.

I see you forgot to mention the Berlin Wall and how good it worked. The wall in Israel works.