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    Default CA Cities Crack Down On Job-Stealing Illegals

    When the extremist-dominated fed and state egregiously procrastinate it's left to a courageous spate of cities who'll control their fate:

    Conservative Inland Empire Cities Crack Down on Illegal Workers

    Conservative my liberal newspaper's butt -- this action is foundationally centrist.


    Stung by foreclosures and joblessness, politicians in Temecula, Murrieta, Lake Elsinore, Menifee and Norco have been railing against illegal immigrants for taking jobs away from desperate citizens. In December, unemployment ranged from 9.7% in Murietta to 14.2% in Lake Elsinore.
    Thankfully somebody in power is railing against multiple-crime illegals and the criminals who hire them!


    Using a strategy first adopted in Arizona, the cities in January began requiring all businesses to check the legal status of new workers through E-Verify, a free online database run by the federal government that allows employers to determine the immigration status of their workers. Employers that refuse risk having their business licenses revoked.
    Yes, what coward Whitman refused to say that would have gotten her elected and what liberal ethnic-beholding Gov. Brown would never panderingly say, courageous cities are now doing. Good for them!


    "The simple notion to why we did it is that we believe that American jobs should go to Americans," said Temecula City Councilman Jeff Comerchero.
    Comerchero for President!


    In Lancaster, which last year became the first city in California to require all businesses to screen workers through E-Verify, Mayor R. Rex Parris says the program already has had a deterrent effect.

    "That's exactly what we wanted," he said. "As soon as I pull the business license of a Wal-Mart or McDonald's, that's really going to change things around here. And that's what I fully intend to do if we find a flagrant violation."
    Yes! Yes! Yes!

    Oh it feels good to read about people doing the right thing!


    But critics in the business community complain about E-Verify's reliability.
    Or in other words, "We need our wage-slave labor or we business owners will be out of business".

    Okay .. then you're out of business.

    That won't affect unemployment insurance drain, because owners, like "released" contracted Americans who were really employees, don't get unemployment insurance.

    And that won't affect the unemployment numbers, because you weren't hiring people who are counted in these numbers, and, of course, you aren't part of those numbers either.

    Business owners who rely on third-world country wage-slave labor to run their businesses need to have their egregious attituded chickens come home to roost.


    The crackdown in the Inland Empire comes in towns that, while hard hit by the recession, largely escaped the worst of the economic downturn that crushed the rest of Riverside and San Bernardino counties, leading local critics of E-Verify to credit the area's resilient "tea party" activism as one of the driving forces behind the new policies.
    Let's see .. conservatives mistake barriers for boundaries, and thus they, and their close cousins the Tea Partiers, would naturally favor the centrist policy enforcement of our national boundaries that of course extend to the workplace.

    Liberals, on the other hand, with their one-world multi-culturalism, internationalism, codependent rescuing, self-national-guilt oriented hatred and sacrifice of all that is mainstream American citizen in nature .. and, thus unable to even recognize the reality of national boundaries that of course extend to the workplace .. would, understandably oppose this good centrist policy of boundary enforcement.

    Makes perfect sense.


    Temecula and Murrieta remain among the most affluent and the most Republican cities in the Inland Empire, with Latinos making up less than 22% of the population in each community. In Riverside and Ontario, by contrast, Latinos account for roughly half the population. Both of those cities refused to adopt similar E-Verify mandates.
    Which tells us two things: first, the LA Times is a blatantly liberal newspaper looking to blame their bipolar conservative enemies for "racist" behavior when the crackdown here is centrist in nature, while second, ignoring that race and ethnicity most certainly play a part in supporting or condoning egregious illegal behavior, especially in cities where "the inmates are running the asylum".


    Winder says he depends on a crew of skilled immigrant farmworkers to bring in the harvest and process the grapes [to make his wine]. Many are legal, but others he's not sure about. Either way, he says, there's no one else willing to pick the grapes.
    Yeah, Mr. Winder, "others" you're not "sure" about .. uh huh .. right ...

    Well, better to chuck Two-Buck Chuck then to chuck American citizen workers, wouldn't you think there, .. Chuck?!


    All in all, this e-verify crackdown is the right thing to do in cities all across America.

    Those cities refusing to do so exemplify a takeover of America by non-American citizens, a "silent" invasive assault on American citizens everywhere in America.

    Bravo to these courageous cities for doing that right thing our cowardly state and federal politicians don't have the balls .. and heart .. to do.
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    Default Re: CA Cities Crack Down On Job-Stealing Illegals

    Quite telling, and amazing that you blame the new Governor of CA, Brown, who's been in office a mere few months on this, and forget that the highest growth of this occurred under the Republican governor that he replaced.
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    Well, it is about damn time!

    Why do you lump the "one fry short of a happy meal" far left Liberals with someone like me? I am Liberal. Therefore I am "for" the working man. Who has suffered with the influx of illegal labor. Anyways, I always thought it was the Conservatives who wanted that cheap labor for their business constituents.

    We have allowed legal workers from Mexico to harvest food since WW2. Had to have them at that time due to so many men being drafted to fight. They just never went home after WW2, as there were better jobs in factories for the returning soldiers. But surely the apple picking can be done by legal workers, instead of illegal ones. Perhaps the illegals work for less, which is probably the story there.

    Until we go after the employers, and make examples out of them, it is a losing battle. You have to cut off the demand, in order to solve the problem. Going after individual illegals takes too much money and people, and as long as the jobs are here, they will walk back over the border to fill them.

    The trouble lies with the fact that the Conservatives don't seem to want to go after employers in any large manner. They have done only lip service over the years. To make us think they are actually trying to solve the problem. And with the silliness that is in the Democratic Party today in regards to this issue, they sure as hell won't do much. I am a Liberal, without a Party, I guess. One of those old timey Liberals that actually had and used common sense. Without the silliness that has become much of the Dems today. Many of those folks fall into the space cadet category, IMO. As do the Far Right Loons. I think its too many drugs, that caused major brain damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConLib View Post
    Quite telling, and amazing that you blame the new Governor of CA, Brown, who's been in office a mere few months on this, and forget that the highest growth of this occurred under the Republican governor that he replaced.
    Oh please -- how convenient that you "ignore" that I "trashed" Republican conservative Whitman in the matter as well!

    I mean, do you bipolars ever stop battling each other?!

    Everyone knows that Republicans in their intrinsic extremism have their faults and that liberals in their instrinsic extremism have their equal but opposite faults.

    That's not the issue here.

    The issue is that someone in power is finally doing the correct centrist thing by American citizens.

    Let's stop this useless bipolar conflict between liberals and conservatives here in this thread.

    And instead let's focus on what we all together can do for American citizens whose very livelihoods are besieged by illegal activity on the part of illegal immigrants and the criminal employers who hire them.

    Both liberals and conservatives in power are rightly to be operating in the best interest foundationally of all American citizens, first and foremost, promoting their general welfare, without sacrificing them to any ideology left or right.

    Let's get everyone in power on the same good page fighting the American citizen-damaging scourage of illegal immigration in all of its forms of damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Doggy View Post
    Well, it is about damn time!

    Why do you lump the "one fry short of a happy meal" far left Liberals with someone like me? I am Liberal. Therefore I am "for" the working man. Who has suffered with the influx of illegal labor. Anyways, I always thought it was the Conservatives who wanted that cheap labor for their business constituents.

    We have allowed legal workers from Mexico to harvest food since WW2. Had to have them at that time due to so many men being drafted to fight. They just never went home after WW2, as there were better jobs in factories for the returning soldiers. But surely the apple picking can be done by legal workers, instead of illegal ones. Perhaps the illegals work for less, which is probably the story there.

    Until we go after the employers, and make examples out of them, it is a losing battle. You have to cut off the demand, in order to solve the problem. Going after individual illegals takes too much money and people, and as long as the jobs are here, they will walk back over the border to fill them.

    The trouble lies with the fact that the Conservatives don't seem to want to go after employers in any large manner. They have done only lip service over the years. To make us think they are actually trying to solve the problem. And with the silliness that is in the Democratic Party today in regards to this issue, they sure as hell won't do much. I am a Liberal, without a Party, I guess. One of those old timey Liberals that actually had and used common sense. Without the silliness that has become much of the Dems today. Many of those folks fall into the space cadet category, IMO. As do the Far Right Loons. I think its too many drugs, that caused major brain damage.
    Supporting American citizen and legal immigrant workers is a centrist policy -- has been for many score years.

    Though supporting workers over owners has been part of the liberal v. conservative bipolar conflict respectively over the decades, liberals, especially today's breed, don't draw the distinction of legal v illegal workers because of their dysfunctions that I listed in the OP.

    Those who still want to use the liberal label in describing themselves would indeed do well to recognize the "takeover" of "liberalism" and the Democratic party by the current breed of American citizen self-haters ..

    .. But they would do even better to recognize that they who still want to use the liberal label in describing themsleves might never have really been liberals at all .. and that they most likely have been centrists .. somewhat choosing the left of two evils .. all along.

    Yep, if you're "without a party" .. odds are high you may really be a centrist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Doggy View Post
    Well, it is about damn time!

    Why do you lump the "one fry short of a happy meal" far left Liberals with someone like me? I am Liberal. Therefore I am "for" the working man. Who has suffered with the influx of illegal labor. Anyways, I always thought it was the Conservatives who wanted that cheap labor for their business constituents.

    We have allowed legal workers from Mexico to harvest food since WW2. Had to have them at that time due to so many men being drafted to fight. They just never went home after WW2, as there were better jobs in factories for the returning soldiers. But surely the apple picking can be done by legal workers, instead of illegal ones. Perhaps the illegals work for less, which is probably the story there.
    I agree with the above and have said repeatably we have been outsourcing good American Jobs right here at home.

    Until we go after the employers, and make examples out of them, it is a losing battle. You have to cut off the demand, in order to solve the problem. Going after individual illegals takes too much money and people, and as long as the jobs are here, they will walk back over the border to fill them.
    Now I agree again with going after employers but Obama is not doing that, and he also stopped building the wall on the border. I do not agree with you that going after employers will stop the problem of illegals. There are 20 to 30 million in this country and theses illegal’s are in every fabric of our work force and this is a partial list of good American jobs illegal’s are taking; heavy construction, home builders, ranches, farms, hotel/motels, factories of every kind and description, road builders, slaughter houses, housekeepers, nannie’s, care givers, landscapers, gardeners, cooks, truck drivers, janitors, commercial fisherman, etc etc. They are in every state and every working environment, even Powell’s house. There is no way any government is going to police every mom and pop business that have illegals working for them or homeowners using illegals. The only way is to stop them at the border. Period.


    The trouble lies with the fact that the Conservatives don't seem to want to go after employers in any large manner. They have done only lip service over the years. To make us think they are actually trying to solve the problem.
    There you go blaming the Pub's as those they are the problem and the Dem's are the solution. No way. It was Bush that started the wall and Obomer stopped it. As for going after employers Obomer is not doing that either. But going after employers is a waste of money so I don't blame him or anyone for not doing that. But I heavily criticize any president that will not close the fucking border. Finish building the damn wall and send in some troops and the illegal problem is solved. Simple as that.

    And with the silliness that is in the Democratic Party today in regards to this issue, they sure as hell won't do much. I am a Liberal, without a Party, I guess. One of those old timey Liberals that actually had and used common sense. Without the silliness that has become much of the Dems today. Many of those folks fall into the space cadet category, IMO. As do the Far Right Loons. I think its too many drugs, that caused major brain damage.
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    the problem is not the government, but the companies and individuals that hire the illegal.
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    I love conservatives.

    "I hate the government!" "The government needs to do more about (illegal immigration, abortion, etc....)"


    The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
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    I love liberals

    "Keep the government out of my womb!" "The government needs to do more about (income distribution, and keeping me from eating Twinkies, etc....)"


    The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    I love liberals

    "Keep the government out of my womb!" "The government needs to do more about (income distribution, and keeping me from eating Twinkies, etc....)"


    The hypocrisy is unbelievable.


    Not even close.

    E for effort though.


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