Thread: how come them folks in Arizona don't care?

Originally Posted by lutherf

Well, Hoplite, I happen to work in an area that is a hotbed of illegals. I also happen to work with some folks who, over the years, have employed illegals. I happen to be intimately familiar with the financial dealings of a number of employers of illegals.

Let me restate that....."suspected" illegals.

I have worked with ICE on taking down some of these folks.

Here's an example of one that I wasn't involved in:
Chuy's restaurant owners suspected of illegal hiring, tax evasion

and here's an example of how certain agencies aid go out of their way to aid the hiring of illegals:
Forum Wednesday focuses on Panda Express immigration raid

I have worked alongside and with many people who were not here legally and I talked with them as freely as I talk with you now.

Very few undocumented workers are willing to report labor abuses to the proper channels because of a fear of deportation or retaliation.

Originally Posted by Hoplite

I have worked alongside and with many people who were not here legally and I talked with them as freely as I talk with you now.

Very few undocumented workers are willing to report labor abuses to the proper channels because of a fear of deportation or retaliation.

Were all of those illegals you worked with getting paid less than everyone else who was doing the same job? Furthermore, if you knew that your employer was committing a crime and abusing employees why didn't YOU turn him in?

Originally Posted by lutherf

Were all of those illegals you worked with getting paid less than everyone else who was doing the same job?

Yes, they were. We were working for a contractor leveling out a lot.

Furthermore, if you knew that your employer was committing a crime and abusing employees why didn't YOU turn him in?

Because I would have lost my job and so would they in addition to possibly being deported. It sucked, but it kept food on the table for all of us, that's why we accepted the job in the first place.

Originally Posted by Hoplite

Yes, they were. We were working for a contractor leveling out a lot.

Because I would have lost my job and so would they in addition to possibly being deported. It sucked, but it kept food on the table for all of us, that's why we accepted the job in the first place.

So you're OK with someone getting screwed over as long as that someone isn't you. I think I see how this works.

Originally Posted by lutherf

So your OK with someone getting screwed over as long as that someone isn't you. I think I see how this works.

Sneer all you want, we made the best of a bad situation.

Originally Posted by Hoplite

Sneer all you want, we made the best of a bad situation.

ahoy Hoplite,

them who have more can afford to sneer, do just that matey. 'tis the way it all works as i pointed out in me thread;

http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/huma...nary-folk.html

we all do what we must to keep our vessels afloat, me bucko, worry not 'bout any criticisms fer the choices ye made.

in a way, thats all them folks in Arizona be doin'. ye see, in the end, they don't care about illegal immigrants workin' so much as they be in a grim mood at the downturn in the economy, fer the housin' bubble burstin' put a mighty salvo amidships fer many 'o them.

they just seek folks to blame, which be understandable...they've a right to be angry...

but when the day turns to night and the be alone with thar anxieties, they just be worried about thar own fate. they really don't care that much about brown peoples comin' to thar land...they just need someone to blame fer the troubled times they live in...

...and thats why they've raised such a paltry pittance fer this "wall".

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Lost Time,

has the Federal Government or the conservative SCOTUS weighed in on this matter and flat out opposed it?

if so, i be unaware 'o that matey.

- MeadHallPirate

That is my point. Several important cases are winding their way through legisation currently. Untill those are decided, roadblocks from the Feds and others inhibit the building of the fence. Today there was more whinning locally about the new fence heights in several areas where illegals broke their legs because the increase the fence height from 10 feet to around 18 feet.