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Old 07-07-2006, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: Hardball interview of Cindy Sheehan

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Hmmm not a conservative

but nice liberal rant
Thing is I'm a moderate, and these are my views for the record:

Gay marriage: Wow! If I were king, NOPE! But what the hell, hope they have more success that hetro-marriages.

Abortion: The individual woman's decision. She knows if she is capable of raising a child in a healthy wholesome loving enviro.

Enviro: It's the only one we got, we can find alternative fuels but not alternative airs or waters.

Healthcare: Universally or educated everyone in some medical discipline.

Affirmative action: Wish we could do without it, but that would require men to be equitable, just and noble. We tried, they weren't, it stays.

Welfare reform: Hell yeah!

Immigration: Shut it doooooown, at least until we can adjust our inferstructure to compensate for the flood of immigrant (illegal & otherwise)

Church & State: They can co-exist peacefully. If you are uber-sensitive about prayer in school or evolution, get over it they are ideas and words, don't be a bitch made ******.

The Presidency: Should not be humiliated for the world's entertainment. In all fairness it was the repubs that did this with Clinton. It is no ones business about a blowjob but Bill, Monica and Hillary's. I will never forgive them for setting this precedence or the demos for stooping to that level today.

and finally...

Cindy Sheehan: Agree or disagree, 1. She has the right to say as she pleases. 2. dissension is not treason. 3. As long as people continue to listen they support (by default) or at least legitamize her position.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: Hardball interview of Cindy Sheehan

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http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/...cindy-sheehan/

this is a link to a link to this movie,

the question is , was this interviewer out of line?


i ask for i found this on democraticunderground and they said she was bashing sheehan

last i checked Hardball was pretty pro democrat , and i think she was just asking questions really dont see the horror in it

No, I don't think that the interviewer was out of line.
Anyone who's ever seen Hardball before knows that the show's goal is to come off as abrupt and hard hitting, so I'm not quite sure what anyone would be complaining about. The interviewer asked her questions frankly, but also gave Sheehan the courtesy of plenty of uninterrupted time to answer her questions, and only intervened when Sheehan's replies became long winded (given that the interview time was so short) or off topic.
People see what they want to see and for those looking to perpetuate the "Sheehan the victim" image then I'm sure they'll see this as such.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:53 AM
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You aren't going to start bashing the mother of a dead US soldier are you?

Her son died in military service, I'm not sure why that should put her behavior above reproach.
Could you please explain why it should?
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Hardball interview of Cindy Sheehan

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Hmmm not a conservative

but nice liberal rant
Sorry Gravid, this is an in-depth reply from Rak. You're not going to get much better out of him.


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Old 07-07-2006, 08:06 PM
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like it or love it this is your country and if you go abroad and get on a stage and tell the world your country sucks i think you are a fucking traitor
I really am concerned that you don't seem to know what the word traitor means. A traitor is someone who gives up state secrets, someone who outs a CIA agent, someone who leaks classified information.

Someone who tells people that they are upset because they have a president that started a war based on lies is not a traitor. That is a Patriot.

You are a Loyalist. That is why you think the Patriots are your enemy.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:07 PM
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Her son died in military service, I'm not sure why that should put her behavior above reproach.
Could you please explain why it should?
No one is above reproach, but the people that are constantly bashing Retired Generals, War Veterans and the Parents of Dead Soldiers are the same people that say they support the troops. I find it fascinatingly disgusting.
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Old 07-08-2006, 06:37 AM
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No one is above reproach, but the people that are constantly bashing Retired Generals, War Veterans and the Parents of Dead Soldiers are the same people that say they support the troops. I find it fascinatingly disgusting.
So were you just taking a shot at Rakkasan for not supporting the views of people like Murtha and Kerry or were you generalizing about people who dislike Cindy Sheehan?
(not being a douche or anything ... the question is purely inquisitive and asked with no sarcasm or negative undertone)
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:01 AM
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Default Re: Hardball interview of Cindy Sheehan

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No one is above reproach, but the people that are constantly bashing Retired Generals, War Veterans and the Parents of Dead Soldiers are the same people that say they support the troops. I find it fascinatingly disgusting.
Cindy Sheehan may be the mother of a dead soldier, but what does that have to do with her extremist views and tactics? Am I not allowed to vehemently disagree with her because her son, which disagreed with her views, died in Iraq? WTF?
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:03 AM
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She seemed a bit harsh, but Cindy Sheehan answered her questions politely and came off looking much better than the loud talking abrupt interviewer. IMHO.
Really? I thought it was a good interview. Cindy Sheehan came off looking more sane than she usually does, though should could stand to take a logic class or two.
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: Hardball interview of Cindy Sheehan

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I really am concerned that you don't seem to know what the word traitor means. A traitor is someone who gives up state secrets, someone who outs a CIA agent, someone who leaks classified information.
Oh Samantha, you never seem to disappoint me with your rhetoric. Someone "gave up state secrets", someone "outted a CIA agent", someone "leaked classified information" ... yet, Fitzgerald only indicted one person [for perjury] and nobody was charged with any of these allegations.
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