Thread: Impediments to Obama’s Re-Election

Originally Posted by Steve

Obama's biggest obstacle to re-election is the fact that he's Obama. He's recently proven that he's not up to the task...

As long as you realize that your statement is ONLY a personal opinion (though, I understand it is shared by a significant, but not overwhelming number of people), I respect your right to thinkt that way.

I certainly do not agree, but who cares?

And, as it stands today, there is NO single politician who has a favorability rating as high as President Obama. This may change, in one direction or another, over the next 18 months.

Originally Posted by Sadanie

And, as it stands today, there is NO single politician who has a favorability rating as high as President Obama. This may change, in one direction or another, over the next 18 months.

Oh, you must mean this poll

Poll: Obama's approval hits new low - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

President Barack Obama’s approval rating and prospects for reelection have plunged to all-time lows in a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.

Half of the registered voters surveyed for the poll think that the president does not deserve a second term in office, while 41 percent say he does. In another Quinnipiac poll released just four weeks ago, 45 percent said the president did not deserve reelection, while 47 percent said he did.


The decline in support for a second Obama term comes as his approval rating has dropped 4 percentage points since early March, landing at 42 percent – a record low – in the poll released Wednesday. His disapproval rating has risen from 46 percent to 48 percent.

I liked you post but then you made this comment

Originally Posted by noahath

Of course, much depends on the climate, and who the GOP nominee is. If it's a firebrand like Palin, Gingrich, Bachman, etc, then look for a Dem landslide aka 1964. The only chance the GOP has is to nominate someone like Daniels, Romney etc, and perhaps a firebrand as VP. I think 2012 has a lot of echoes of 1996. If I were RNC Chair though I'd be spending less money on worrying about the White house, and more money on Gubernatorial, House and Senate races. The Dems will spend a fortune on re-electing Obama, which will leave them vulnerable elsewhere.

Lets be clear when Republicans LOSE they nominated moderate RINO's. Ford, Bush 41, Dole, McCain.

When republicans win its because they Nominated Conservatives or people that faked it well. Nixon, Reagan, Bush 43 (faked)

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

It's not particularly you, it's just how every election has worked since I've been on this board (I'm sure you've noticed a similar thing going on with the partisans around here over the years). In 2004, the libs predicted Bush couldn't possibly ever be re-elected. In 2008, the cons predicted there's no way Obama would be voted in. These 2012 predictions are just more of the same. Those who love Obama say he'll be re-elected. Those who hate him say it's not possible. Those more in the middle readily admit they have no clue and it's pointless to make solid predictions this early, especially since we have no idea who he'll be running against.

I said McCain would lose and Obama would win, as I even voted for Obama, knowing when you give people what they wish for they soon learn that it was a mistake and knowing 2010 conservatives would take back congress. sadly they did not take the senate.. in hind sight that is good because that leaves 2012.

Originally Posted by Sadanie

And, as it stands today, there is NO single politician who has a favorability rating as high as President Obama. This may change, in one direction or another, over the next 18 months.

Wow.

Your view isn't unlike that of a girl in her junior year of high school, who believes that popularity equates to ability.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Obama's popular because the people who view him favorably are too fucking stupid to realize that he's out of his league...

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Those who love Obama say he'll be re-elected. Those who hate him say it's not possible.

Oh, it's entirely possible.

It's entirely possible because a good deal of the voting public are fucking morons...

Originally Posted by tsquare

Oh, you must mean this poll

Poll: Obama's approval hits new low - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

I wouldn't worry too much about this poll. I usually prefer to check Gallup, where Obama's approval rating is back up to 49% today.

But, obviously, it isn't your "cup of tea!"

Originally Posted by Steve

Oh, it's entirely possible.

It's entirely possible because a good deal of the voting public are fucking morons...

Agree that a good deal of the voting public are morons. . .just look at the tea baggers, Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin!

Enough to explain why the U.S. education is failing against most developped countries!

Originally Posted by Sadanie

I wouldn't worry too much about this poll. I usually prefer to check Gallup, where Obama's approval rating is back up to 49% today.

But, obviously, it isn't your "cup of tea!"

As you know I quoted Gallup quite a bit in my OPs, including the state by state numbers.

I used Quinnipiac because it was the headline today and also it is regarded as a left of center poll.

Of course if you like Gallup, you'll love this:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/146876/Am...ng-Leader.aspx

Originally Posted by tsquare

As you know I quoted Gallup quite a bit in my OPs, including the state by state numbers.

I used Quinnipiac because it was the headline today and also it is regarded as a left of center poll.

Well, I do with the poll the same thing I do with my scale: I always look at ONE poll, so that the variations are based on the same criteria.

Same with my scale. If I weigh myself at the doctor's office, the spa, and my home, I get three different weights. But if I weigh myself always on ONE scale (doesn't matter which one, as long as it's always the same), even if I cannot be sure that my weight is perfectly accurate, I can at least be sure of how much weight I gain or lose over a time period.

So. . .Gallup is my "baseline" poll, whether or not I like it.

And, in the last two days (since his speech), Obama's approval rating has gone up 4 points (3 points on the 29th, 1 point today).

By the way, his approval rating is about the same as Clinton and Bush's at the same time in their presidency. Nothing to say that he will not be reelected, based on that criteria. But I think it is too early to tell, either way.