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    Default Ralph Nader hearts Sarah Palin?

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    Nader likes Palin?

    Seems like it:

    We decided to call the longtime left crusader about a speech Palin gave in Iowa earlier this month, one which seemed to mark the transformation of Palin from a standard-issue movement conservative to something more independent and more reformist. And Nader told us he liked what he heard.

    "I think she's a lot smarter than most people credit her," says Nader. "Judging by her comments, she is squarely in the camp of conservative populism, opposed to corporatism and its corporate state."

    Palin delivered the speech in question in Indianola, Iowa, on Sept. 3. As Anand Giridharadas later observed in the Times, the media responded primarily by "ignoring the ideas she unfurled and dwelling almost entirely on the will-she-won’t-she question of her presidential ambitions."

    Some of the rhetoric was familiar. Palin slammed the "far left," praised the Tea Party, and denounced the idea of more government spending.

    But there was also some refreshingly new material. She described a "permanent political class," one that is hypocritical and devoted to personally profiting off of government. ("Seven of the 10 wealthiest counties are suburbs of Washington, D.C.," she noted.) She spoke of "the collusion of big government and big business and big finance." And she took aim at both parties for governing in service of their big campaign contributors.

    This sounded to us like Nader. And Nader agreed.

    "When she was governor of Alaska she really did take on the oil industry, and [she also] approved a statewide referendum that resulted in the first state in the Union to regulate cruise lines and their pollution offshore," he says. "So there is a precursor to these remarks."
    Ralph Nader praises Sarah Palin - Sarah Palin - Salon.com

    Pretty scary stuff huh?

    Smart? Sarah Palin smart?

    So does Ralph have a point? Or is this a bad acid flashback?
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    Default Re: Ralph Nader hearts Sarah Palin?

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Pretty scary stuff huh?

    Smart? Sarah Palin smart?

    So does Ralph have a point? Or is this a bad acid flashback?
    Believe it or not, a lot of good looking women are very intelligent.
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    Default Re: Ralph Nader hearts Sarah Palin?

    I agree with Ralph on a lot of what he is saying, but at the same time, Sarah is far too conservative. Anymore, they seem to be far too liberal or far too conservative.

    I think that if Sarah is going to be taken seriously, she really needs to somehow demonstrate to people that her public actions over the past few years are for the sole purpose of the improvement of this country rather than retaliation for losing the election of 2008, or to stay in the spotlight and crave attention. Those are the perceptions that I hear from a lot of people.

    She needs to present herself in a way that she can convince people that she means what she is saying and that her intentions are real.

    She may be trying to deliver a message, but people are still feeling like there has been too much of a Palin overdrive since 2008. Usually, after an election, the candidates go away and back to their lives. She is pretty vulnerable, in retrospect due to the way she presents herself and the perception that is left with people, and in it a lot of the meaning of what she may be trying to say gets lost in translation.

    A lot of people seem to feel that she is angry because she didn't get to be Vice President, and is taking it out on people. Some of her points may be valid in the process, but she is not convincing to a lot of people.

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    Default Re: Ralph Nader hearts Sarah Palin?

    Wow, Palin got an endorsement of sorts from Nader, that just indicates she's even more irrelevant.

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    Perhaps the world really is coming to an end. Ralph Nader supporting Sarah Palin should have all of us buried in "end of the world" text all throughout history looking for other events to worry about.
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    Default Re: Ralph Nader hearts Sarah Palin?

    Quote Originally Posted by JDJarvis View Post
    Wow, Palin got an endorsement of sorts from Nader, that just indicates she's even more irrelevant.
    That's not a bad observation...
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    Default Re: Ralph Nader hearts Sarah Palin?

    It think this is the team sports politics that the US is more into than most other nations... Because he agrees with her on one issue doesn't mean he agrees with her on every issue.

    Palin comments are true about a certain inner circle in politics (it happens in every country)..

    What should America is the divide and conquer mentality in US Politics... So much of the media is concerned in the bases that they forget that a majority of US Citizens interests...

    The New York Times > Health > Image > Support for a Public Health Plan

    Politicians are there to represent everyone and should throw idealogy to the side to give people what they are asking for. The US is very concened with flip floping, in Europe if the people want it they do what they are told... The politician much like a coach has to make calls on the enviroment and call the play.

    They a represent thier people at the end of the day. They are not their to listen to lobbists.

    Just to point out you an example, Ian Paisley in Northern Ireland is one of the most loyalist anti-catholic politicians in Northen Ireland. Quotes like

    They breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin.
    Ian Paisley
    Of Catholics, to loyalist rally in 1969.

    This Romish man of sin is now in Hell!
    Ian Paisley
    On the death of Pope John XXIII.

    The IRA's bishop from Crossmaglen.
    Ian Paisley
    Calling the then head of the Catholic Church in Ireland, Tomás Ó Fiach.
    Yet I know Catholics in his area who he has fought for there rights. Why because they were his constituents...

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