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Old 08-13-2006, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Theory and Politics: EarthTopia

It depends on how much socialism is required to promote the general welfare. The point is that the interstate public sector would be creating jobs by building infrastructure.
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Old 08-13-2006, 11:56 PM
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A nullification amendment would apply to legislated acts. I presuppose that all powers not retained by the states are specifically delegated to the interstate public sector.
Yes, but any power the interstate public sector has could be nullified, correct? No matter what the interstate level does, the states are not coerced to comply, right? If this is true, the states would be able to do anything they wanted regardless of the interstate level's wishes.

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Europe dropped slavery voluntarily, and is not one hundred years behind in civil rights.
This is because Europe was more completely industrialized long before the United States were. If the United States dropped slavery voluntarily, it probably wouldn't have happened until the begining of the 20th Century at the earliest. Not to mention segragtion would probably still be the law of the land in parts of the country, had federal law not prohibited it.

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I think a bill of rights should be written at the appropriate interstate level.
What is the government's obligation to its people, though, in your opinion?

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It depends on how much socialism is required to promote the general welfare. The point is that the interstate public sector would be creating jobs by building infrastructure.
This is the approach that post-war Japan took, worked fairly well for a long time, but there are some serious economic problems they are going to have to overcome in the near future. Creating infrastructure isn't a great way to build a sustainable economy, because eventually you have nothing left to create. How much socialism do you think a government is justified in using?
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