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Old 12-07-2005, 10:34 PM
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I have always thought he must know SOMETHING which would be seen as damaging to the U.S., considering his alliance with us some years back.
The charges Saddam is being tried for are " (Iraqi)government's response to a 1982 attempt on Saddam's life in Dujail -- including the killings of 146 residents of that village"- http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines

Hmm, why isn't Saddam being tried on the infamous gassing of the Kurds with his WMDs?

Will it open a can of political worms? Other nations, besides the USA have their own secrets to hide.

I wish I knew more.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:45 PM
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If Saddam wanted to go off about international relations he'd embarrass France and Russia a lot more than he'd embarrass us.

And please, let's not dignify our relations with Saddam in the 80s as some kind of alliance. if we were allied with Saddam, we were allied with 100 other countries. Man, that Reagan, hell of a diplomat that guy. In actuality, Iraq was always a Soviet client state.

Saddam was the enemy of our enemy, nothing more. We weren't the only ones who saw it that way. Pretty much the entire world sided with Saddam against Iran, which was seen as the bigger threat at the time and in hindsight probably was.

As for the gassing of the Kurds, that atrocity resulted in international commendation and pretty much ended Saddam's good relations with most of the Western world.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:53 PM
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The charges Saddam is being tried for are " (Iraqi)government's response to a 1982 attempt on Saddam's life in Dujail -- including the killings of 146 residents of that village"- http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines

Hmm, why isn't Saddam being tried on the infamous gassing of the Kurds with his WMDs?

Will it open a can of political worms? Other nations, besides the USA have their own secrets to hide.

I wish I knew more.
He will be tried on one charge, if he gets the death penalty he will be executed, if the charge doesn't result in a conviction, which would be the result if the court follows the law, the court will be dissolvedand another court assembled to try him on another charge, and so on until a court sentences him to death.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:00 PM
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Or he's found innocent of all 400,000 or so counts of murder.

Actually, we do that here as well. Those LA cops that beat Rodney King were going to get convicted even if they had to call them back to court ten times on different charges.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:12 AM
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If Saddam wanted to go off about international relations he'd embarrass France and Russia a lot more than he'd embarrass us.

And please, let's not dignify our relations with Saddam in the 80s as some kind of alliance. if we were allied with Saddam, we were allied with 100 other countries. Man, that Reagan, hell of a diplomat that guy. In actuality, Iraq was always a Soviet client state.

Saddam was the enemy of our enemy, nothing more. We weren't the only ones who saw it that way. Pretty much the entire world sided with Saddam against Iran, which was seen as the bigger threat at the time and in hindsight probably was.

As for the gassing of the Kurds, that atrocity resulted in international commendation and pretty much ended Saddam's good relations with most of the Western world.
He has no motive to embarass France or Russia. Whatever he says now, the arab street will buy it.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:13 AM
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Whatever he says now, the arab street will buy it.
That's not saying much for the Arab Street.

They will make a hero out of the same guy they do not want back in power.

I understand emotions, but that's retarded.
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:23 AM
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I'll give one thing to Saddam, in a fight between him and Bush, I think that the elder Saddam could whip Bush's butt. He gets so passionate on camera in that court, and you know that he knows he's on camera.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:16 PM
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That's not saying much for the Arab Street.

They will make a hero out of the same guy they do not want back in power.

I understand emotions, but that's retarded.
We've turned him into a victim, a martyr. We've given him hero status.

He is more like they are, they felt prior to our invasion that we were stealing the wealth of the arab world and oppressing them. Now we are "picking on Saddam." In their eyes, not because we have a just case against him, but because he's an upity arab.

We've admitted our reasons for invasion were completely phoney. There are no WMD. It's how they see it.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:40 PM
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Arabs are about as likely to support Saddam as gays are to support priests who molest altar boys.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:43 PM
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Arabs are about as likely to support Saddam as gays are to support priests who molest altar boys.
Well let's get something straight right now.

THIS IS NOT A GAY THREAD.

Take your gay bashing to another thread, there are plenty of them for that, see the Civil Rights section.

I don't know how much of the world media you read but the arab street is routing for Saddam, even in Jordan, our "strongest" arab ally.
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