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Old 03-25-2006, 07:53 AM
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The reason he is defending Saddam is becouse Saddam has alot of secrets related to his cullusion with the United States. If the trial was fair members of the Bush/Raegan administration's could been convicted of being Saddam's accomplises
Nice try, but if Ramsey Clark's purpose in defending Saddam is truly patriotic, for the purpose of Protecting the U.S., please explain the following quote from Clark that undermines that very premise:

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"Finally, any court that considers criminal charges against Saddam Hussein must have the power and the mandate to consider charges against leaders and military personnel of the U.S., Britain and the other nations that participated in the aggression against Iraq, if equal justice under law is to have meaning."
Seems a funny argument to make if HIS PURPOSE is to shield the U.S. doesn't it?
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Old 03-25-2006, 06:12 PM
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Nice try, but if Ramsey Clark's purpose in defending Saddam is truly patriotic, for the purpose of Protecting the U.S., please explain the following quote from Clark that undermines that very premise:



Seems a funny argument to make if HIS PURPOSE is to shield the U.S. doesn't it?
He is doing exactly what I said which is to hold people in our government that supported the regime accountable along with Saddam.
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Old 03-25-2006, 06:16 PM
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So you are saying that Saddam didn't really kill the Kurds? All those people who are arguing that Saddam deserved to be toppled because he gassed the Kurds are wrong? All those people who say Saddam killed thousands and thousands of Iraqis, way more than we killed, are wrong????
Saddam was a nasty dictator yea, but he did not gas the Kurds. This is known by the CIA and I expect this lie to fall apart later on during the trial when the defense states their case. All they have to do is have the CIA testify.
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Old 03-25-2006, 06:44 PM
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Saddam did kill a whole bunch of Kurds in the 1988 Anfal campaign.

But it's not as open and shut because he wasn't there and there may not have been any documents with his signature on them ordering the campaign.

Why take on less sure cases when you have an atrocity that he was actually present for?

Now Chemical Ali, they'll nail him for the Kurds for sure, because he was the primary guy in charge on the ground at the time.

They can also get Chemical Ali for the way he governed Kuwait during the Iraqi occupation. Something like 5000 Kuwaitis disappeared during just a six month period.

A War Crime or an Act of War?

By STEPHEN C. PELLETIERE

MECHANICSBURG, Pa. -- It was no surprise that President Bush, lacking smoking-gun evidence of Iraq's weapons programs, used his State of the Union address to re-emphasize the moral case for an invasion: "The dictator who is assembling the world's most dangerous weapons has already used them on whole villages, leaving thousands of his own citizens dead, blind or disfigured."

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/02/OOF010203.html



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Q & A With CIA Analyst Stephen Pelletiere

Exposing the lies: Who killed the Kurds?


http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle2098.htm
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:27 PM
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He is doing exactly what I said which is to hold people in our government that supported the regime accountable along with Saddam.


Want to put American officials in the dock?

I say go for it. Provided we also put French, Russian, and Arab officials there as well.
 

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