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Old 12-09-2005, 12:10 AM
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True. This guy reminds me of some awful garbage I've seen insofar as contemptuous court behaviour and frivolous prison claims filed by nuisance prisoners. The funniest--or lack thereof insofar as taxpayer waste--was a lawsuit I had to address as a judicial clerk with a long term career criminal prisoner called Concepcion (no kidding--really his last name--how coincidentally appropriate) who sued the state for violating his reproductive rights by not supplying him with sexual access to impregnate his girlfriend or alternatively a state-paid artificial insemination of her with his sperm sample. He even already had several kids with different women, but never supported them given his ongoing anti-social criminal behaviour.


I think your analysis is correct. He is trying to build his legacy before death using the trial whilst pulling down the US and the new Iraqi government as best he can in the process. I would expect no less of him than what he is doing.

My admittedly lawyer-biased thinking is that the court would better establish its authority if it humbled him the way any other authoritative court must humble anyone who would show utter contempt for it. If the public sees a paper-tiger court that is a wuss in front of a globally known notorious former leader who is now deposed and in chains who clearly did the things he is accused of committing, then my concern is that Saddam will succeed in getting the people to disrespect the new system through his own tolerated disrespect of it. Even myself I think the court is spineless and unworthy of respect when I see it allowing some prisoner to dictate the pace of the trial and frustrate its process with BS and antics.
It was a huge mistake to try him in Iraq. If we'd have tried him in Europe at the Hague, the Europeans may have given some respect to the process, the middle east is never going to give any respect to any process coming from this war.
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The Iraqi people need to try him. All that matters is what the Iraqis think about the process. What other Arabs think is of no consequence.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:01 PM
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The Iraqi people need to try him. All that matters is what the Iraqis think about the process. What other Arabs think is of no consequence.
So why is the United States trying him?
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:41 PM
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The US is not trying him. In case you didn't notice, that's an Iraqi court.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:41 PM
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The US is not trying him. In case you didn't notice, that's an Iraqi court.
Who appointed the leaders who appointed the judiciary?
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:21 PM
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The elected government can make any changes they want to. Or they can try him by THEIR standards rather than ours. If you think that will make it more legitimate, then I'm all for it. Although the result may be very different from what you imagine.
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:26 PM
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I think that rather than let this arrogant prick try to run the trial, the judge should slap irons on him and bodily drag his filthy ass to court and remind him that him and his cronies are no longer in charge. If I was a defendant in criminal court here and behaved that way, I'd be thrown in the slammer for contempt.
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They're still afraid of him.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:49 PM
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The elected government can make any changes they want to. Or they can try him by THEIR standards rather than ours. If you think that will make it more legitimate, then I'm all for it. Although the result may be very different from what you imagine.
Now tell me what I imagine.
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:49 PM
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He just gets bolder and blusterier with each day. Now he uses the defendant's box to call for attacks on US troops. During his trial! I'm not sure if the judges are afraid of him so much as they are afraid of giving the appearance of running a kangaroo court if they gag him.
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