Thread: California taxes the internet

Apparently believing that if you are in a hole, keep digging, California has found another way to drive jobs out of the state -

Internet sales tax: Online retailers to start collecting sales taxes in California - latimes.com

And the first one out of the gate to cut ties with California affiliates, Amazon -

Amazon ends deal with 25,000 California websites | amazon, affiliate, california - The Orange County Register

When will liberals realize that the government should always try to minimize taxes, not vice versa.

There not going to be happy until they run every business out of the state. They act like these companies don't pay any taxes at all. I just like to know where the California government comes up with the revenue numbers they're expecting to generate? They obviously don't take into account any of the negative effects of this bill. I'll bet anything the numbers they project to raise will not even be close to what actually comes in.

This should end well for CA, tell businesses to leave the state on top of the other problems they face.

Originally Posted by buck84

There not going to be happy until they run every business out of the state. They act like these companies don't pay any taxes at all. I just like to know where the California government comes up with the revenue numbers they're expecting to generate? They obviously don't take into account any of the negative effects of this bill. I'll bet anything the numbers they project to raise will not even be close to what actually comes in.

The problem is Milton Friedman is right and business don't pay taxes - people do.

It might be the consumer, the employee, or the employer but one way or the other another person's pockets are about to get lighter and that's why businesses leave. There's no real moral reason to pay anymore in taxes than the law requires and when governments raises taxes businesses move to more friendly locales.

Exactly. Wouldn't you? I sure as hell would. State and the Federal government alike need to learn you just can't raise taxes on anybody you want. At first they leave states for other states, push too hard and they leave the country. Why, because they can. Small businesses and little retail shops don't have the luxury of being able to pick up and move so they are forced to take new tax laws and requirements up the you know what, however the big dogs don't, they can pull up anchor and go anywhere they want pretty well anytime its necessary.

Also what in the world, did the smaller storefronts and retailers who supported this legislation think they are supposed to gain? They are not going to gain anything and maybe it wasn't about gain for them, I don't know. They basicly just welcomed more regulation in an already over regulated state.

They have no one but themselves to blame.

California has chronically elected very liberal legislators to look out for their interests. When they rightly ousted Gray Davis, their governor, they had a chance to put in a moderate in Tom McClintock but they put Arnold there, instead and since then have pretty much gotten what they have deserved.

Icing on the cake was the last gubernatorial election: Moonbeam Brown for governor:

Originally Posted by CharlesDavenport

When will liberals realize that the government should always try to minimize taxes, not vice versa.

Considering California is not liberal, I'm not sure why you're ranting.

As much I disagree with this move, it does come with SOME benefits.

The larger bite from buyers' pocketbooks will be eased only a bit because California's basic sales tax rate also will drop to 7.75% on Friday when a 2-year-old temporary increase expires. The basic rate in the city of Los Angeles falls back to 8.75%.

The actual cost to consumers wont change significantly.

Originally Posted by CharlesDavenport

Apparently believing that if you are in a hole, keep digging, California has found another way to drive jobs out of the state -
Internet sales tax: Online retailers to start collecting sales taxes in California - latimes.com

And the first one out of the gate to cut ties with California affiliates, Amazon -
Amazon ends deal with 25,000 California websites | amazon, affiliate, california - The Orange County Register

When will liberals realize that the government should always try to minimize taxes, not vice versa.

When alleged conservatives realize regulating forms of Commerce is more conducive to the general prosperity and general welfare than resorting to arbitrary forms of command economics, and not calling it socialism or communism.

I agree that we should be getting some value from our tax dollars. A fiber optic network that can reach any part of the State could do fine for cost of an internet tax.

Originally Posted by Hoplite

Considering California is not liberal, I'm not sure why you're ranting..

"California is not liberal!"