Thread: Republican controlled New York Senate Passes same sex marriage.

This is not an endorsement of same sex marriage but I thought it was interesting and it might make a few liberal heads explode due to not being able to wrap their minds around the occurrence.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/25/ny...nate.html?_r=1

The approval of same-sex marriage represented a reversal of fortune for gay-rights advocates, who just two years ago suffered a humiliating defeat when a same-sex marriage bill was easily rejected by the Senate, which was then controlled by Democrats. This year, with the Senate controlled by Republicans, the odds against passage of same-sex marriage appeared long.

Seems like Democrats just aren't very good at getting the job done...especially when they are in the driver's seat.

So what are you trying to say here? That Dems are against gay marriage and that Republicans support it? I'd love to see some GOP presidential candidates come out in support. I dare say if they did then they wouldn't be candidates for very long.

Meanwhile, I'd like to congratulate the NY Senate for the action.

Originally Posted by noahath

So what are you trying to say here? That Dems are against gay marriage and that Republicans support it? I'd love to see some GOP presidential candidates come out in support. I dare say if they did then they wouldn't be candidates for very long.

Meanwhile, I'd like to congratulate the NY Senate for the action.

No...I'm saying that Dems do a horrible job, even when it is supposed to be something that they are championing.

It's great, but why are you expecting "heads to explode"?

The vast majority of us understand that not all Republicans are dicks.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

This is not an endorsement of same sex marriage but I thought it was interesting and it might make a few liberal heads explode due to not being able to wrap their minds around the occurrence.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/25/ny...nate.html?_r=1



Seems like Democrats just aren't very good at getting the job done...especially when they are in the driver's seat.

People evolve. Their thinking and their experiences changes their views over time.

When I was 8 girls were about the worst thing ever invented, besides broccoli. When I was 13 my view was quite different.



Why does that seem such a surprise to you?

Originally Posted by Hoplite

It's great, but why are you expecting "heads to explode"?

The vast majority of us understand that not all Republicans are dicks.

Because something like this should be beyond the comprehension of many liberals who paint Republicans with a broad brush.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Because something like this should be beyond the comprehension of many liberals who paint Republicans with a broad brush.

You dont see any issues with that statement, do you?

Originally Posted by Hoplite

You dont see any issues with that statement, do you?

I assume you're trying to say that it is ironic because you believe I'm doing the same thing? That's why I said "many". It is directed at the type of liberals that think conservatives or Republicans are interchangeable with racist or bigot or any other label that is used frequently. There is a very specific target of people that I was addressing.

Originally Posted by noahath

So what are you trying to say here? That Dems are against gay marriage and that Republicans support it? I'd love to see some GOP presidential candidates come out in support. I dare say if they did then they wouldn't be candidates for very long.

Meanwhile, I'd like to congratulate the NY Senate for the action.

exactly.
The different results between the vote of 2 years ago and today's is the dramatic change of opinion about gay and gay rights that has occurred over the last 2 + years.
Finally, the recognition of gays and their rights has reached critical mass among the general population. I believe that all the debate around DADT has been instrumental in shifting public opinion from a negative to a positive majority re: rights of gay people.

We, as a country, are finally growing up, at least on that issue.

I expect that we have turned the corner, and that recognition of gay mariages will multiply at a much faster pace in most states in the next 5 to 10 years.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

I assume you're trying to say that it is ironic because you believe I'm doing the same thing? That's why I said "many". It is directed at the type of liberals that think conservatives or Republicans are interchangeable with racist or bigot or any other label that is used frequently. There is a very specific target of people that I was addressing.

I'll be sure to let all five of them know.