Thread: Wisconsin recall elections

Originally Posted by TomBlaze

Looks like they are going to make it. I think Pasche is going to pull it out. She is ahead by 4% at the moment.

This to me is going to be mirrored the 2012 election. I bet the dems take over control of both houses.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Originally Posted by TomBlaze

Well there was one republican who broke from the party and voted with the dems on the union killing measures. Cannot recall his name but it was mentioned on the news last night. If he votes with the dems again, they can still kill the bill.

Guess not... yeah it's a law now... has been upheld by the courts and it actually working! It's saving money and balancing budgets and in some case districts are actually hiring teachers with some of the money saved.

Even if the union thugs had won control of the state Senate... they would not have been able to overturn the law.

Now... there are two Democrats still up for recall in two weeks. Then it's on to redistricting and if the thugs can extort any more money from their members trying to recall Walker.

They spent between 10 and 20 million on this failure.

BTW: I agree that this election will be mirrored the 2012 election... Democrats spending hundreds of millions of other people's money and losing.

Originally Posted by tsquare

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?




Guess not... yeah it's a law now... has been upheld by the courts and it actually working! It's saving money and balancing budgets and in some case districts are actually hiring teachers with some of the money saved.

Even if the union thugs had won control of the state Senate... they would not have been able to overturn the law.

Now... there are two Democrats still up for recall in two weeks. Then it's on to redistricting and if the thugs can extort any more money from their members trying to recall Walker.

They spent between 10 and 20 million on this failure.

BTW: I agree that this election will be mirrored the 2012 election... Democrats spending hundreds of millions of other people's money and losing.

redistricting has happened and has almost assured the republicans control of the house and senate in WI for many years to come.

Originally Posted by CSA

redistricting has happened and has almost assured the republicans control of the house and senate in WI for many years to come.

The act of "redistricting" has been a bipartisan effort for a long time now to secure votes thus seats on both sides of the isle. There are plenty of examples of both GOP and Democrat areas, when looking over a map, that are just as bizarre as they can be. But, it is now the norm for the purpose of voter concentration one way or the other.

Originally Posted by CSA

redistricting has happened and has almost assured the republicans control of the house and senate in WI for many years to come.

Opps... never mind.

Originally Posted by MattInFla

Doesn't look like he was that wrong.

Of the 6 seats targeted by the recall effort, 2 were won. Control of the Senate remains in GOP hands.

Since the aim was clearly to regain control of the Senate, it is completely fair to characterize this as a failure.

Matt

The GOP dropped from a 19-14 seat majority to a 17-16 seat majority. That's a significant diminishment of their power. I wouldn't call that a GOP victory, they lost a lot of political clout because of the Walker fiasco.

Originally Posted by Sluggo

The act of "redistricting" has been a bipartisan effort for a long time now to secure votes thus seats on both sides of the isle. There are plenty of examples of both GOP and Democrat areas, when looking over a map, that are just as bizarre as they can be. But, it is now the norm for the purpose of voter concentration one way or the other.

While that might be seen as the net result redistricting is far more complex a process than that.

Among all the other considerations the controlling party must make is: "do I try and maximize my opportunities or limit my opponents?" Thus do you spread out his voters over a wide range of districts or concentrate them into a small number of districts? And you must remember that these last for 10 years... so today's political environment is not that which you'll be living with in 8-10 years.

This year in Missouri our legislature took a two pronged approach... for the federal congressional seats they made two heavy Democratic districts (down from 3) and kept the rest in the safe hands of the GOP.

In the state legislature seats they did in many areas spread out and dilute Democratic votes in an effort to pick up even more seats.

We'll see next year if that works.

Wisconsin will lose, if their dems want to bankrupt the state and have the votes , so be it.

Dissilusioned_1
The GOP dropped from a 19-14 seat majority to a 17-16 seat majority. That's a significant diminishment of their power. I wouldn't call that a GOP victory, they lost a lot of political clout because of the Walker fiasco.

First of all, one of those two seats they lost, the guy was mired in scandal. The other was very close. Those that retained their seats did so rather handily. All of this in the context of labor unions pouring more money into these six races than was spent on ALL state legislative races in 2010. That (along with the devastating loss in the Supreme Court race several months ago) is hardly a slap on the wrist over, let alone a repudiation of Walker's agenda. The

Originally Posted by lutherf

I have no idea if anybody outside of Wisconsin cares about this but the union fueled progressive left threw a ton of effort into ousting 6 Wisconsin state senate seats and they won......2 out of 6.

Obviously, my choice would have been 0-6 but a .667 save percentage isn't too bad all things considered. Scott Walker and the Wisconsin GOP got absolutely zero support in the MSM and , frankly, I didn't see much support for them in the blogosphere. I did see whole heaping helpings of support for the dems in the blogosphere but, as suspected, it turns out that the "support" was more propaganda than substance.

Better luck next time!

I'm with lutherf on this one. There was an extreme effort put into this and the results were lack-luster. That is what the liberals posting in this thread are ignoring.

On top of that, they are also ignoring the fact that Wisconsin is a blue state, which should make this failure even more stinging. The funny thing is that the liberals are spinning it as some kind of victory. I wonder if they are familiar with the Law of Diminishing Returns?