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Old 08-01-2006, 11:51 AM
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Default Here come the Swifties again

Just a matter of time.

Vets set sights on Murtha, Aug. 1, 2006:

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The “Swift Boat” veterans who grabbed national headlines in 2004 when they attacked John Kerry in his failed presidential bid now are turning their sights to Johnstown.

Their target is U.S. Rep. John Murtha, a critic of the Iraq war and a de facto spokesman on the subject for the national Democratic Party.

Armed as a new group – Veterans for the Truth – they’re bringing their campaign to “Redeploy John Murtha From Congress” to his backyard.

They plan to hold a national rally in Johnstown in October “to show their outrage at John Murtha over what he is saying about our troops,” state chairman and former Johnstowner Mark Parker said in a release.

Details of the rally will be outlined at a news conference at 11 a.m. Thursday in front of Murtha’s office at 647 Main St.
Why do these guys hate veterans so much? Or is it just veterans who have the nerve to think for themselves and to speak up?

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A guest at the news conference will be Larry Bailey, president of Veterans for the Truth. Bailey is a retired Navy captain and former commanding officer of the Naval Special Warfare Center. He co-authored the anti-Kerry book “Unfit for Command.”
Well, I guess that qualifies him to be the authority on what every decorated Vietnam War veteran may ever say about anything related to any war, eh?

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Murtha, a retired Marine Reserve colonel, in 1974 became the first Vietnam veteran elected to Congress. He’s been known for his strong support of the military and on defense issues, working quietly behind the scenes with Republicans and Democrats alike.
Yeah, he sounds like an evil person alright.

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The main speaker at the October rally is expected to be John O’Neil, a former Navy officer who served on Kerry’s swift boat during the Vietnam War. O’Neil was an active campaigner against Kerry during the 2004 presidential campaign.
Sounds like a fun group - "patriots" all.
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:08 PM
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Why do these guys hate veterans so much? Or is it just veterans who have the nerve to think for themselves and to speak up?
The same could be asked of you and the Swift Boat Vets - why do you hate them so much? Is it because they dared speak their minds?

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Old 08-01-2006, 12:09 PM
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The same could be asked of you and the Swift Boat Vets - why do you hate them so much? Is it because they dared speak their minds?

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If I may?

Because they lied.
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:10 PM
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Lied, or you just don't like their message? Sounds like more of that fabled Liberal Tolerance....

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Old 08-01-2006, 12:13 PM
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They lied and were debunked. They were not with Kerry on the swift boat and yet they said they were. Liberals don't tolerate lies. I'm not sure where you heard they do.....
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:20 PM
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They lied and were debunked. They were not with Kerry on the swift boat and yet they said they were. Liberals don't tolerate lies. I'm not sure where you heard they do.....
Some guy at a podium, wasn't it? I remember some adamant thumping.....

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Old 08-01-2006, 12:40 PM
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Some guy at a podium, wasn't it? I remember some adamant thumping.....

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HAHA! And we come full circle once again back to Clinton. Well done Matt
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:41 PM
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sounds like someone is killing the messenger again...............damn isnt that bad ?
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:46 PM
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sounds like someone is killing the messenger again...............damn isnt that bad ?
What, they're "killing" Murtha because they don't like his message?

But that's not what you meant, is it?
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:47 PM
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The same could be asked of you and the Swift Boat Vets - why do you hate them so much? Is it because they dared speak their minds?

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Seriously though. You do realize it was a tissue of lies right? I mean I don't have a perfectly objective viewpoint on this because I didn't want w to win. But I thought reasonable people on both sides of the aisle realized this was a baseless hatchet job? I honestly didn't think this was still a matter for debate.
 

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