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Cindy is a traitor like John Kerry. Citizens shouldn't go to peace talks like Kerry did. 8 32.00%
It's useless, it means nothing. Nothing will come of it, but good try. 9 36.00%
She sure is brave and although it won't help, good job Cindy and CODE PINK! 3 12.00%
What an American heroine! I admire her guts & the way she really sticks to her guns! 5 20.00%
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Old 08-03-2006, 10:25 PM
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She is getting justice for her son.
How so?
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:47 AM
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How so?

my question also

her son was a soldier who fought in the war she protests

she uses the money she gets from his death to make a name for herself

i dont see the connection between that and Justice
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Old 08-04-2006, 05:10 AM
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I'm sure she's not doing it to be remembered. She is getting justice for her son. Her sister and her other three kids are backing her all the way.

Why can't you come to grips with the fact that when a US citizen joins the army, he or she knowingly makes a choice that may result in the loss of their own life. There are no guarantees that should a war break out, the soldier and his/her family members will be in agreement with our governments decision to go to war.
Police and Firemen make the same choice.......they could lose their lives at any given time. So why did Casey Sheenan join up? I don't know for sure , but I do know this. Unless he was a person of extremely low intelligence, he knew that if he was called to battle that he would be obligated to go and fight, and possibly die.
Why can't you see that Sammy? Why can't you see that this was all about Casey and nothing about Cindy? Mothers mourn avery day about how they lose their children to totally unjust deaths. Unlike the 7-11 clerk who gets shot in a robbery, the young lady that dies in a collision with a drunk driver, the baby killed by the psycho sitter, Casey had a choice. He made his choice and assumed the risks.
I am sorry he lost his life, but he Momma needs to shut her mouth and go on with her life. If you really, really , really think Cindy's the shit, why don't you make the journey to Crawford Texas and stand in the sweltering heat with her and her handful of supporters? I'll make you a deal.....if you will go and I'll drive to Crawford and take your photo with Cindy and post it here at USPOL. How cool would that be?
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Why can't you come to grips with the fact that when a US citizen joins the army, he or she knowingly makes a choice that may result in the loss of their own life. There are no guarantees that should a war break out, the soldier and his/her family members will be in agreement with our governments decision to go to war.
Police and Firemen make the same choice.......they could lose their lives at any given time. So why did Casey Sheenan join up? I don't know for sure , but I do know this. Unless he was a person of extremely low intelligence, he knew that if he was called to battle that he would be obligated to go and fight, and possibly die.
Why can't you see that Sammy? Why can't you see that this was all about Casey and nothing about Cindy? Mothers mourn avery day about how they lose their children to totally unjust deaths. Unlike the 7-11 clerk who gets shot in a robbery, the young lady that dies in a collision with a drunk driver, the baby killed by the psycho sitter, Casey had a choice. He made his choice and assumed the risks.
I am sorry he lost his life, but he Momma needs to shut her mouth and go on with her life. If you really, really , really think Cindy's the shit, why don't you make the journey to Crawford Texas and stand in the sweltering heat with her and her handful of supporters? I'll make you a deal.....if you will go and I'll drive to Crawford and take your photo with Cindy and post it here at USPOL. How cool would that be?
God this is the best post on this subject yet

its part of the deal ...."war", and its upfront in the contract , its what you know you have to GIVE to get all the bennies
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:21 AM
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Mothers mourn avery day about how they lose their children to totally unjust deaths. Unlike the 7-11 clerk who gets shot in a robbery, the young lady that dies in a collision with a drunk driver, the baby killed by the psycho sitter, Casey had a choice. He made his choice and assumed the risks.
MADD mothers started this way and grew and grew by other mothers joining ranks. Mothers and fathers testify before congress and get bills passed named after their children to fight crime and find kidnappers and child molesters etc......you never seem to be angry at those parents who are trying to do something to make their lost child's life mean something.....to make some kind of sense of the worst disastor a person can suffer, the loss of a child.


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She is getting justice for her son.
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How so?
Maybe it's more like getting getting justice for herself, for the loss of her son.
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:28 AM
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Yes, but Romanians are not Iraqis.

See the difference?


And it was an outside force called Team America that caused the Soviet Union to withdraw it's Iron curtain from Romania, which allowed the Romanians the opportunity to gain their own independence.
Oh hey, good one. And just how did Team America force the Soviet Union to withdraw its Iron Curtain from Romania? I didn't see the movie...
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:58 AM
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MADD mothers started this way and grew and grew by other mothers joining ranks. Mothers and fathers testify before congress and get bills passed named after their children to fight crime and find kidnappers and child molesters etc......you never seem to be angry at those parents who are trying to do something to make their lost child's life mean something.....to make some kind of sense of the worst disastor a person can suffer, the loss of a child.

Here's a deal....I'l acknowledge that...but you need to acknowledge this part:

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when a US citizen joins the army, he or she knowingly makes a choice that may result in the loss of their own life.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:06 AM
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Oh........and this part too.........

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There are no guarantees that should a war break out, the soldier and his/her family members will be in agreement with our governments decision to go to war.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:09 AM
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when a US citizen joins the army, he or she knowingly makes a choice that may result in the loss of their own life.
Yes, but his/her parents do not.

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There are no guarantees that should a war break out, the soldier and his/her family members will be in agreement with our governments decision to go to war.
Very true, but this does not mean the family of the soldier may not publically disagree with the war if they feel it is unjust and unwarranted.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:39 AM
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Yes, but his/her parents do not.



Very true, but this does not mean the family of the soldier may not publically disagree with the war if they feel it is unjust and unwarranted.

Well sure they do, this is America. When she decided to go on her mission she had to have known that some people would question her motivation and methods. IMO, I don't see Cindy drawing huge support to "her cause" due to her methodology. I doubt many of the anti war crowd formed their opinion on Iraq after they were enlighted by Cindy. I'm sure you won't agree, but IMO Cindy likes the media attention. Why not be honest and consider that might be the case?
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