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Old 08-09-2006, 01:30 AM
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...Most people that work in intel tend to have a "Hmmm, I'm not sure if this is classified or not, so I won't say anything just in case." attitude. Where it seems that politicians have the exact opposite attitude.
I guess this is the case in most countries. It certainly is in my home country. I just cannot understand why. It should not be hard to learn the "intel view" (or whatever we can call it). We all hope our elected politicians are intelligent, educated people, too bad this does not seem to be the case too often.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:53 PM
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It's starting to get pretty obvious that many politicians secretly hate America.
Actually I think is is much more obvious that americans, including poltician are beginning to wake up to the fact that the president is clearly overstepping the bounds of his authority. and the congresses hands are somewhat tied. They can't speak without breaking the law, but because they can't speak they become accessories after the fact. Commonly referred to as "Catch 22"
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:57 PM
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But that is the logic he is using. Nobody knows what was in that legislation because it was classified. Thematic is making an assumption that because it is classified it points to Bush breaking the law. There is absolutely no evidence or fact behind his statements whatsoever. He is just creating a conspiracy theory.
Ah, but there is evidence of such happening, including the survalence and wire tapping. also secret prisons, etc.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:58 PM
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But that is the logic he is using. Nobody knows what was in that legislation because it was classified. Thematic is making an assumption that because it is classified it points to Bush breaking the law. There is absolutely no evidence or fact behind his statements whatsoever. He is just creating a conspiracy theory.
Ah, but there is evidence of such happening, including the survalence and wire tapping. also secret prisons, etc.

Kindly remove the "Blinders"
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:24 AM
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Ah, but there is evidence of such happening, including the survalence and wire tapping. also secret prisons, etc.
Where is the evidence? All Ive seen is anonymous leaks in the newspaper. Thats hardly evidence.
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Old 08-10-2006, 07:12 AM
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Where is the evidence? All Ive seen is anonymous leaks in the newspaper. Thats hardly evidence.
If you would remove the blinders you would see it. tere is the evidence that is presented in court, and there is circumstancial evidence that is all around. Bush has even talked about it. So has RICE. Remove the blinders "AND the ear-plugs. Denying it won't make it go away.
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Old 08-10-2006, 07:46 AM
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If you would remove the blinders you would see it. tere is the evidence that is presented in court, and there is circumstancial evidence that is all around. Bush has even talked about it. So has RICE. Remove the blinders "AND the ear-plugs. Denying it won't make it go away.
Give me a source.
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:27 AM
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Your first statment is not true at all. Select congress members chosen by congressional rules have full access to classified information. They choose not to review it.
In my first statement, "nobody" refers to all of us, the American public, not the Members of Congress.
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Old 08-12-2006, 02:46 PM
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but [Bush] doesn't think he is breaking the law, he thinks he is above the law
How do you know what he thinks?
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Old 08-12-2006, 03:09 PM
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Give me a source.
These threads for the past six months. Checjk them out. Links are all over the place, but I am not about to waste MY time doing YOUR resaeach.
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