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Old 08-08-2006, 06:05 AM
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Default Liberals let us drill for Gods sake!

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Why can't we tax the h*ll out of foreign oil companies while at the same time at least begin to start drilling our own oil? Only until Cali, Fl, La, and alaska loosen those liberal restrictions that make it unprofitable to drill can we begin to decrease our independence on foreign oil. We have the oil all we have to do is drill it.

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Old 08-08-2006, 06:18 AM
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http://finance.myway.com/jsp/nw/nwdt...&date=20060807

Why can't we tax the h*ll out of foreign oil companies while at the same time at least begin to start drilling our own oil? Only until Cali, Fl, La, and alaska loosen those liberal restrictions that make it unprofitable to drill can we begin to decrease our independence on foreign oil. We have the oil all we have to do is drill it.

All the oil/natgas on the US continental shelf added together ain't going to make even a tiny dent in US oil imports.

Btw, Canada and Mexico are the major source of "foreign" supply of energy to the USA.
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:47 AM
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All the oil/natgas on the US continental shelf added together ain't going to make even a tiny dent in US oil imports.

Btw, Canada and Mexico are the major source of "foreign" supply of energy to the USA.
I've heard that we don't have enough gas defense; I just don't believe it for one second. Our govn is in bed with other countries they have no interest in allowing a free market the oppurtunity to produce our own oil. The govn are using the liberals to enact bs conservationist laws that make it near impossible to drill in the us.
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:55 AM
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I've heard that we don't have enough gas defense; I just don't believe it for one second. Our govn is in bed with other countries they have no interest in allowing a free market the oppurtunity to produce our own oil. The govn are using the liberals to enact bs conservationist laws that make it near impossible to drill in the us.
Now that's a crazy conspiracy theory if I ever heard one.

First, the free market can't make oil appear beneath the surface of the earth no matter how much it clenches its fist and wishes. If there actually WAS tons of oil there, do you think environmentalists would stand a chance, they've lost so much ground since the 70s its not even funny. Its just that EVERYONE in congress knows that this is about Ted Stevens rewarding oil contractors who have funded his campaign. The oil isnt even where the money is, the money is in the infrastructure needed to GET the oil.

Second, the government is using liberal environmentalists (the same environmentalists that it constantly fights on things like clean water, clean air, species preservation and renewable energy) in order to prevent domestic drilling because it helps our allies economically?

The logic is all twisted up. Our limited oil reserves and Middle East's massive oil reserves is predictive of our foreign policy, not the other way around. Do you think we would give two shits about middle east peace if we didn't have a stake in that regions petroleum. I give you our foreign policy towards Africa as exhibit A. Rwanda, Darfur major humanitarian crises, we kind of care a little bit about the second and completely ignore the former until a movie comes out a decade later (which you've all forgot about by now as well). There's just as much instability there as there is in any region, but our involvement is nearly non-existent.

Having a stake in middle east politics is the easiest way to ensure our oil consumption future, particularly in an age where everyone is predicting a decrease in oil supply.
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:55 AM
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I've heard that we don't have enough gas defense; I just don't believe it for one second. Our govn is in bed with other countries they have no interest in allowing a free market the oppurtunity to produce our own oil. The govn are using the liberals to enact bs conservationist laws that make it near impossible to drill in the us.
If you refer to natural gas, again, Canada and Mexico are the largest suppliers to the USA (by a longshot). Canada has more natural gas reserves than just about anywhere on the planet.

Indeed, your anti-liberal rant just makes your motives look questionable here and not worthy of intelligent replies. Just my two cents worth.

And your crack about the "free market" is almost laughable. That's the source of a significant portion of the problem, not the solution. Indeed, is not the reason that there are limitations upon drilling in coastal areas have anything to do with the fact that previous "free market" players have had too many "accidents" in such situations - accidents that have enormous implications for tourism and wildlife? In other words, too many people have learned not to trust the "free market" when it comes to such matters as offshore drilling.
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:08 AM
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Default Re: Liberals let us drill for Gods sake!

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http://finance.myway.com/jsp/nw/nwdt...&date=20060807

Why can't we tax the h*ll out of foreign oil companies while at the same time at least begin to start drilling our own oil? Only until Cali, Fl, La, and alaska loosen those liberal restrictions that make it unprofitable to drill can we begin to decrease our independence on foreign oil. We have the oil all we have to do is drill it.

I supplied you with the documentation which shows this to be nonsense on the other oil thread. Why are you pretending you don't know better than this?
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:09 AM
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If you refer to natural gas, again, Canada and Mexico are the largest suppliers to the USA (by a longshot). Canada has more natural gas reserves than just about anywhere on the planet.
Not true...the gulf of mexico has the largest reserve of oil in the world; which incidentally is why china is being allowed to drill off the coast of cuba.

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Indeed, your anti-liberal rant just makes your motives look questionable here and not worthy of intelligent replies. Just my two cents worth.
how many conservative republicans enact laws that restrict business the way the liberals do?

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And your crack about the "free market" is almost laughable. That's the source of a significant portion of the problem, not the solution. Indeed, is not the reason that there are limitations upon drilling in coastal areas have anything to do with the fact that previous "free market" players have had too many "accidents" in such situations - accidents that have enormous implications for tourism and wildlife? In other words, too many people have learned not to trust the "free market" when it comes to such matters as offshore drilling.
Perfect defense of a liberal; it's bad for the environment. Give me a break; this is the same logic that prevented the corps of engineer from re-inforcing the levees in nola. When a liberal doesn't have a logical justification for what they think they resort to saying it's bad for the environment. What a crock of sh*t
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:12 AM
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Not true...the gulf of mexico has the largest reserve of oil in the world; which incidentally is why china is being allowed to drill off the coast of cuba.



how many conservative republicans enact laws that restrict business the way the liberals do?



Perfect defense of a liberal; it's bad for the environment. Give me a break; this is the same logic that prevented the corps of engineer from re-inforcing the levees in nola. When a liberal doesn't have a logical justification for what they think they resort to saying it's bad for the environment. What a crock of sh*t
Troll.

On to the ignore list you go.

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Old 08-08-2006, 07:16 AM
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Troll.

On to the ignore list you go.

Bye.

Feel free to rant at will and try not to dribble on the carpets.
oh no the canadian doesn't like the truth so he's going to stop listening; what a surprise.
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:17 AM
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Perfect defense of a liberal; it's bad for the environment. Give me a break; this is the same logic that prevented the corps of engineer from re-inforcing the levees in nola. When a liberal doesn't have a logical justification for what they think they resort to saying it's bad for the environment. What a crock of sh*t
So there's no possible ways for humans to hurt the environment? Fascinating theory, except for, you know, the hundreds of years of documented hsitory of the exact opposite being true. I guess it was all made up. People who got diseases from early unsanitary industrial waste disposal, liberals right? Lead paint poisoning, liberal conspiracy. The huge rise in deer population after the decimation of wolves and other predators, all a liberal conspiracy too right?
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