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Old 08-08-2006, 02:45 PM
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Spinoff from a different thread. What direction is public policy towards homosexuality moving in?
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:47 PM
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Well, yeah. I understand. But our society is rejecting over and over and over legitimizing "gay".

Not sure some folks will ever get that figured out. But here's yet another example of a recent rejection of "gay" from the mainstream:

Calif. Legislature scales back bill to promote gays in textbooks

The state Assembly on Monday gutted a bill that would have required California textbooks to include the historical contributions of gay people, amending it to say only that school material should not be discriminatory toward gays.

http://www.washblade.com/thelatest/t...m?blog_id=8596
Well I was under the impression that two separate cultures were emerging in the US. The metropolitan culture of the North East, the West Coast and parts of the Midwest, and then the South and the Prairie States.

What you seem to suggest here is that there might be some sort of backlash against homosexuality in the rural areas, or the areas outside of the metropolises in California, New York and perhaps elsewhere.

It's an interesting comment, but I don't know much about it.


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Old 08-08-2006, 03:00 PM
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I thought liberal as hell California was supposed to be promoting it's gay agenda nonstop upon the innocent children? Can't these rightwingnut pundits get anything right.
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Regardless of what is happening in the legislatures and what is coming from the mouths of the loudest people, I think there is a slow but steady acceptance of Homosexuality in the US.
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:04 PM
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Well I was under the impression that two separate cultures were emerging in the US. The metropolitan culture of the North East, the West Coast and parts of the Midwest, and then the South and the Prairie States.

What you seem to suggest here is that there might be some sort of backlash against homosexuality in the rural areas, or the areas outside of the metropolises in California, New York and perhaps elsewhere.

It's an interesting comment, but I don't know much about it.


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I think there IS or is GOING to be a general backlash EVERYWERE against it. They've pushed their "lifestyle" too far to fast and people are sick to death of it.

Now, the backlash will obviously be more pronounced in some places than others, but the backlash has begun.


Of course this is just going to be breathlessly chalked up to a "growing homophobia" that they "just don't understand" and on and on it will GO.

I think when they stop acting like fit throwing teenagers maybe society WILL become willing to accept them a little bit more. Of course I don't know that THAT will ever happen. Sometimes I think that homosexuality so twists the mind of a person in knots that they loose the ability to DEAL with mainstream societies. They certainly like to seperate themselves and claim their own little "gay culture".
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:05 PM
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Regardless of what is happening in the legislatures and what is coming from the mouths of the loudest people, I think there is a slow but steady acceptance of Homosexuality in the US.
That's interesting. I used to think that way as well. However, I wonder if the acceptance of homosexuality will merely be confined to the metropolises. I haven't travelled much out to the red states, but it seems clear to me where they stand with regards to homosexuality. Given our federalist constitution, it seems entirely plausible that they could have their own little societies out there that really do not accept homosexuality.


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Old 08-08-2006, 03:09 PM
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Regardless of what is happening in the legislatures and what is coming from the mouths of the loudest people, I think there is a slow but steady acceptance of Homosexuality in the US.
A lot of people think that.

As their "causes" keep getting rejected over and over and over and over and over.

You say:

what is coming from the mouths of the loudest people


There are TWO sides of loudmouths here, you realize that right ? You're on one side shooting of your loudmouth. I'm on the other, shooting of MY loudmouth.

Where is this going to end UP ?

Watch and learn.
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:10 PM
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That's interesting. I used to think that way as well. However, I wonder if the acceptance of homosexuality will merely be confined to the metropolises. I haven't travelled much out to the red states, but it seems clear to me where they stand with regards to homosexuality. Given our federalist constitution, it seems entirely plausible that they could have their own little societies out there that really do not accept homosexuality.


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Well, I live in a very ruraly area... Even from the rabid christian conservatives around here (the kids at least) I get the sense that they don't really care as much. Right now they seem to think that homosexuality is something that is more amusing than threatening. I guess laughing cause someone is gay is better than dragging them behind a truck. Did I mention "slow"?

Of course, these people still don't think they should have any rights, and probably think they're all going to hell... But rights outlined in lawbooks and social acceptance are not necissarily mutually dependent.
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That's interesting. I used to think that way as well. However, I wonder if the acceptance of homosexuality will merely be confined to the metropolises. I haven't travelled much out to the red states, but it seems clear to me where they stand with regards to homosexuality. Given our federalist constitution, it seems entirely plausible that they could have their own little societies out there that really do not accept homosexuality.


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I'm sure that it will achieve its first acceptances in the Metropolises and among intellectuals and the highly educated, for these people tend to be the most accepting, but, given time, I'm sure it will spread throughout most of the country.

I've seen several studies showing how homosexuality has gained acceptance across all demographics over the last 3 decades. If I can find a electronic version of these I'll post a link.
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Spinoff from a different thread. What direction is public policy towards homosexuality moving in?
In this thread, I'll be happy to address some of your more specific questions from the other one. When I have a bit of time later, I'll go find the points that I didn't address.
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