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Old 08-11-2006, 10:34 AM
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Default Airline-bomb plot found by US tapping international calls

Q.: How did the authorities discover the recent plot to blow up airliners in flight with liquid explosives?

A.: By the U.S. tapping into international calls and sharing the results with the British government.

You know, the program to tap into calls going between the U.S. and known Al Qaeda numbers in Europe and vice versa? The one the leftists screamed bloody murder about, and tried to mischaracterize as "domestic wiretapping" as though any of the calls were totally inside the U.S., as an excuse to shut it down?

The plot was evidently to blow up 10 airliners gong between England and the U.S. Airliners following that route aren't little. Some hold as many as 300 or even 400 passengers each. They probably wouldn't all be full, but it's reasonable to guess that they probably would have averaged 200 passengers each or so. Times 10 is around 2,000 people or more on those planes.

If the Democrat extremists had been successful in their efforts to shut down the program last year, it's possible that this terror plot might never have been discovered in time to do anything about it, before 2,000 people were blown up and fell flaming into the ocean.

I don't know if authorities have found out which flights on which dates were targeted. If they have, it might be interesting to get the passenger lists when the flights finally take off, and contact the people who were on those flights, and their loved ones waiting for them at home. Some would probably be Americans, some British, and some from other countries.

If we could contact them all and take a poll, how many do you suppose would now say they will still vote for the Democrat party, or whichever party in their country harbors the extreme-left don't-fight-the-terrorists crowd? How many would have voted for them last week before the plot was revealed, and how many would change their votes now?

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http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...225453,00.html

Thwarting the Airline Plot: Inside the Investigation

Exclusive: U.S. picked up the suspects' chatter and shared it with British authorities

Posted Thursday, Aug. 10, 2006

Wednesday night was a long and troubling one for Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. A bubbling plot by British citizens to blow up airplanes had come to a boil in the past three days, and as British authorities arrested dozens of suspects around London, it was Chertoff's job to coordinate the U.S. defenses. Scary intelligence reports pop up all the time, but this particular terror operation got close enough to being carried out that it rattled even the normally sedate Chertoff. "Very seldom do things get to me," he told Rep. Peter King, the Republican chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, in a phone call late Wednesday night. "This one has really gotten to me."

Britain's MI-5 intelligence service and Scotland Yard had been tracking the plot for several months, but only in the past two weeks had the plotters' planning begun to crystallize, senior U.S. officials tell TIME. In the two or three days before the arrests, the cell was going operational, and authorities were pressed into action. MI5 and Scotland Yard agents tracked the plotters from the ground, while a knowledgeable American official says U.S. intelligence provided London authorities with intercepts of the group's communications.


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Old 08-11-2006, 10:39 AM
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Too bad dummycats WEREN'T successful at stopping wiretapping. Then the entire COUNTRY would know how idiotic they REALLY ARE.

But I guess it's not necessary (hopefully) that people need to get killed before America realizes democrats are dangerous, idiotic lunatics.
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Airline-bomb plot found by US tapping international calls

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Q.: How did the authorities discover the recent plot to blow up airliners in flight with liquid explosives?

A.: By the U.S. tapping into international calls and sharing the results with the British government.
That's the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act working the way it is supposed to work.

So what's your problem?
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Airline-bomb plot found by US tapping international calls

[quote=Thane]Too bad dummycats WEREN'T successful at stopping wiretapping. Then the entire COUNTRY would know how idiotic they REALLY ARE.

But I guess it's not necessary (hopefully) that people need to get killed before America realizes democrats are dangerous, idiotic lunatics.[/QUOTE

Another strawman??? To my knowlege NO ONE was trying to stop wiretapping. they were only trying to stop the unlawfull wirtapping without the required safeguards. So once more you are blowing smoke, and by the way your last post said you never had it, but the post prior to that stated you had changed after four tries. so are you also a liar? You are getting more radical all the time.
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: Airline-bomb plot found by US tapping international calls

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Too bad dummycats WEREN'T successful at stopping wiretapping. Then the entire COUNTRY would know how idiotic they REALLY ARE.

But I guess it's not necessary (hopefully) that people need to get killed before America realizes democrats are dangerous, idiotic lunatics.[/QUOTE

Another strawman??? To my knowlege NO ONE was trying to stop wiretapping. they were only trying to stop the unlawfull wirtapping without the required safeguards. So once more you are blowing smoke, and by the way your last post said you never had it, but the post prior to that stated you had changed after four tries. so are you also a liar? You are getting more radical all the time.
Actually, that innacurrate as well. No one has tried to stop anything the NSA has been doing, even what you think of as illegal. It was simply thought of as a gotcha by the libs and the media for a while, then they gave up when the Pres didnt budge.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: Airline-bomb plot found by US tapping international calls

Little Acorn,


Can you show some credible source that says where Democrats tried to stop international wiretaps?


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Old 08-11-2006, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Airline-bomb plot found by US tapping international calls

"By the U.S. tapping into international calls and sharing the results with the British government.

You know, the program to tap into calls going between the U.S. and known Al Qaeda numbers in Europe and vice versa?"


"In the two or three days before the arrests, the cell was going operational, and authorities were pressed into action. MI5 and Scotland Yard agents tracked the plotters from the ground, while a knowledgeable American official says U.S. intelligence provided London authorities with intercepts of the group's communications."


Who is claiming that the "intercepts" were of calls made to or from the US?

Why were there no arrests made in the US?
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Airline-bomb plot found by US tapping international calls

Wiretapping is something I've always been rather ambivalent about.

However, it seems that in this case they used it for purposes of good. As long as the proper safeguards are there, I don't see a problem with this apprehension along with the wire tapping.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: Airline-bomb plot found by US tapping international calls

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Another strawman??? To my knowlege NO ONE was trying to stop wiretapping. they were only trying to stop the unlawfull wirtapping without the required safeguards. So once more you are blowing smoke, and by the way your last post said you never had it, but the post prior to that stated you had changed after four tries. so are you also a liar? You are getting more radical all the time.
Yes, of COURSE.

Typical liberal "blogger B.S."

Say anything you disagree with is a "strawman" or "irrelevant" or even "unconstitutional".

Then reroute and change the subject and take past things said out of context and fabricate a question like "so are you also a liar?" coupled with a statement like "You are getting more radical all the time."

I expected more from you. Obviously I was wrong to expect more from one that STILL has difficulties formatting his posts.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:53 PM
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To my knowlege NO ONE was trying to stop wiretapping. they were only trying to stop the unlawfull wirtapping without the required safeguards.
The only problem is that those "safeguards" are warrants pursuant to probable cause, which by all account we wouldn't have had had we not been wiretapping international calls.
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