Today, George W. Bush said, "Islamo-facists are trying to use any means to kill us because they hate the freedom we all love."

Yes, Islamic terrorists are trying to kill us. But why? Islamic terrrorists are trying to kill us because our government has been funding and arming Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine for decades now.

Islamic terrorists are trying to kill us because our government insists upon militarily occupying Muslim soveriegn nations, installing U.S. military bases on their land and stealing their natural resources; namely, oil and gas.

Islamic terrorists are trying to kill us because each time Israel kills a muslim with American-made and provided weapons, the entire Muslim world, especially Muslim terrorists, squarely and rightfully blame us for Israel's wholesale murder of Muslims.

So why does Bush and our media fervently avoid telling us this most pivotal of truths?

What's this fucking "us" business? Are you even a citizen here? You're just some guy on a visa or staying here illegally from Iran, aren't you?


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Some of what you said is a bit extreme and political opinionated BUT some of it is a little true.

The main reason Islamic radicals hate is is because of our liberal culture.

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That and our scientific and technological acheivements. Acheivements they're only willing to use if it will create usefull tools for them to KILL us nasty infidels.

Their religious veiws have kept many of them very much behind. Like Christianity, they need to go through a reformation of a sort. I don't think that reformation will happen quickly OR easily.

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Use liberals artistic manipulation of logic and language against them.

Israel's occupation of Palestine areas is not illegal. The settlements on occupied territory are illegal, but not the occupation itself. As soon as the Arabic-Palestinian leadership can make peace with Israel and make sure its subjects respect this peace, the occupation will end.

The USA have occupied parts of Iraq and Afghanistan, because terrorists have operated out of these countries - and, in the case of Iraq, based on reports stating there were WMD's there, reports that were later proved to be false.

US military bases in other Muslim countries are rented and paid for under contracts entered into consensually.

Oil and gas are bought by Americans, not stolen.

Nobody can rightfully blame a manufacturer or seller of weapons for the murders committed by others with those weapons, unless the weapons were sold for the specific reason by the seller that the buyer would murder with them. Such is never the case with military arms sold by the USA or US companies.

Furthermore, Israeli commit no "wholesale" murders of Muslims, the state of Israel is not committing murders.

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I disagree. They hate us because we build military bases on Arab land, we invade Arab countries for no good reason. They hate us because they are taught to hate us, just as we are being taught to hate them and they believe the hype, do you?

This reminds me of a very insightful non-fiction book about the Theocracy in Iran.

Called "Reading Lolita in Tehran" it is written by a female university professor recounting life in Iran before and after the Islamic revolution.

And there's one part where she recalls how the great Ayatholla Khomeini said "We must fight Western imperialism in all of its forms, but we are permitted to use Western technology to do so"

It's so absurd, yet so dangerous. Which is how I generally feel about extremism and terrorism.

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And it pisses off the murderous muslims that would massacre the Israeli's in a heartbeat if Israel were unable to defend themselves. Want a villian as far as the creation of the jewish state? I gotta lil secret to tell ya, it wasn't the USA that made that happen. As far as helping the Israelis from being overrun and slain? Yep, that'd be us..............don't like that? Tough shit Jackson.

Oh yeah, at over $70/barrel we're "stealing" it all right. It's more like we are being fucked by middle easterners. When Bush and his buddies live in palaces like the Saudi shieks do, just pop in and let us know , OK?

Once again, too fucking bad, we aren't going to let the "muslim world" wipe Isreal off the map. Don't like that? Come "blow us up" then........ fucking coward cocksuckers.

[/quote]So why does Bush and our media fervently avoid telling us this most pivotal of truths?[/quote]

Because he know that America isn't going to give muslims the green light for a second Halocaust.

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You got your timeline backwards Jessie. 911 precedes Afghanistan and Iraq.

Any US bases in Arab nations are a result of invitation and contract between those Monarchies and the US Govt. Basically Arab Monarchies were afraid of Saddam. And they paid the US to protect them. Remember Kuwait and Gulf War I.

And nobody is stealing anybody's resources. Oil producing Arab States are very wealthy. The less stability there is in the Middle East, the more money they make.

It would behoove you to learn the facts instead of enabling those who seek to bring chaos to the world due to their ignorance and fantacism.


Oh and the 58 year fight against Israel is a holy war, it's disguised as a land dispute.

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they hate us for every thing the US does is against their twisted interpretation of the KORAN

they hate us cause we are rich and powerful, and they are not , and we have been around for only 200 odd years and they have been around for ever


take out bases, wars and all the other political partisan bullshit that is in this thread the biggest reason they hate us is that they cant hurt us like they want, try as they might, hope all they want, use all the aljazerra propaganda films, all the chanting in the street , burning the US flag, and rejoicing every time an american dies , they cant stop our freedom and that fucking pisses them off

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