You are clearly wrong.

Iraq War Resolution

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Wise words from a wise man.

Hairball, I think you are only kidding us all because your self-esteem does not allow you to admit that you are wrong.

Of course you know the difference between a nation and a state. Of course you know that there can be a nation without a state. Like Cherokee nation. . .

For how long was there civil war in the USA? Most people would say 1861-1865. With your way of revising definitions, we would have to say that the USA lived through one long civil war from its foundation in the 18th Century and way into the 20th century. I mean - if Iraq's war against the Kurdish nation is a civil war, the the USA's war against various indian wars defines a US civil war for well over 100 years. Which of course is stupid.

You forgot to address my other point: Namely the fact that the conflict which you tried to define as a "civil war" (Iraq versus Kurdistan) died down several years ago, and that the present civil war between Arab Sunnis and Arab Shias is something new which started as a result of the US invasion.

Actually I freely admit when I am wrong.

Your ignorance of the Iraqi civil wars does not support your argument. As I said before, just because you are ignorant of an event, that does not mean the event never happened. Your lack of knowledge does not support your claim.

Of course you are resorting to fallacious equivocation now. The word 'nation' has several meanings.

So to shoot down your fallacious argument I shall clarify.

Iraq is a country with clearly defined borders. When factions in a country are at war with each other that is a civil war. Iraq has been in a constant state of civil war since 1975.

I gave you several examples of Iraqi on Iraqi actscivil war starting in 1975, going all the way to 2004.

You are just afraid to admit that Bush isn't the source of all war IMO. That's about as hilarious as you blaming Bush for gay prostitution in Iraq while at the same time saying conservatives are against homosexuality.

So are you going to deny that Iraqi Kurdistan is in Iraq?

The Hussein apologists in the forum are getting very desperate.

Really dude, read the links I provided. Iraq was not a peacful place before the invasion. Also you must take into account that Iraq was a closed society under the baathist regime. So the reports are undoubably only the tip of the iceberg.

I know it pisses you off, but face it, The bastion of Socialism got fucked right out of the Mid east. Why don't you get over it and accept that Husseins regime is gone forever instead of being an apologist for the socialist terror.

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There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. -- Rummy

Wise words from a wise man.

It's useless to continute this discussion with you. You may go on trying to convince people that the USA lived through one long civil war from its foundation in the 18th Century and way into the 20th century (referring to the various wars between the white colonialists and indian natives). Other people say that there has only been one civil war in the USA, and that was 1861-1865. However, one last thing: It would be interesting if you could combine your capacity for making very original analyses and your knowledge to inform us all when the latest Russian civil war started.

The carnage continues....

5 Bombs Kill at Least 57 in Baghdad, New York Times, Aug. 13, 2006:

And a blast from the past....

President George Bush Discusses Iraq in National Press Conference, White House, March 6, 2003:

Hairball, that's not a UN resolution.
http://www.yourcongress.com/ViewArti...rticle_id=2686

There was no Iraq War Resolution. That's an internal politics link which is meaningless on the international stage.

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hairballxavier]Actually I freely admit when I am wrong.

the only problem with that is that you seem to be a firm beleiver in that old Oximoron

"I may not always be right, but I'm never wrong."

So that let's you off the hook doesn't it???

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Why is it that neither his link or your link seem to work" all I get is an error statement that says the site cannot be opened.?? I would really like to read it.

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The link you have copied into post#58 works for me.

What's your browser ?

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