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Old 07-27-2006, 04:46 AM
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President Bush and Prime Minister Maliki of Iraq Participate in Press Availability, July 25, 2006:

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Bush: ...obviously, the violence in Baghdad is still terrible...
Gee, ya think?

Mortar Rounds, Car Bomb Kill 27 in Iraq, July 27, 2006:

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A mortar barrage followed minutes later by a car bomb blasted Baghdad's upscale Karradah district Thursday, killing at least 27 people and wounding 63, police said.

The explosions occurred at midmorning in a religiously mixed neighborhood controlled by a major Shiite party, two days after President Bush approved plans to send more U.S. and Iraqi troops into the capital city to curb rising sectarian violence.
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Police Col. Abbas Mohammed Salman said 27 people were killed and 63 wounded. He added that the death toll could rise because many of the injuries were severe.
'Waiting to Get Blown Up', July 27, 2006:

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As President Bush plans to deploy more troops in Baghdad, U.S. soldiers who have been patrolling the capital for months describe a deadly and infuriating mission in which the enemy is elusive and success hard to find. Each day, convoys of Humvees and Bradley Fighting Vehicles leave Forward Operating Base Falcon in southern Baghdad with the goal of stopping violence between warring Iraqi religious sects, training the Iraqi army and police to take over the duty, and reporting back on the availability of basic services for Iraqi civilians.

But some soldiers in the 2nd Battalion, 6th Infantry Regiment, 1st Armored Division -- interviewed over four days on base and on patrols -- say they have grown increasingly disillusioned about their ability to quell the violence and their reason for fighting.
General Explains Baghdad Buildup, July 27, 2006:

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For months, American commanders in Iraq have talked of their desire to withdraw most U.S. troops from Baghdad's dangerous streets and pull them back to the relative safety of big, wellguarded bases outside the capital.

In an interview Wednesday, the commander of day-to-day U.S. military operations in Iraq explained why he plans to do the opposite — push more American troops into the city's neighborhoods, making them responsible for stopping sectarian violence.

Army Lt. Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli also said he wants U.S. soldiers to oversee an army of Iraqis digging water and sewer lines and other public works to create jobs for Baghdad's residents.
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Nine thousand U.S. soldiers, 8,500 Iraqi soldiers and 34,000 Iraqi police officers provide security in Baghdad. Military officials plan to bolster those numbers with 4,000 additional U.S. troops and 4,000 more Iraqi soldiers.
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Another much-vaunted Baghdad security plan was launched by Maliki's government June 14, featuring stepped-up checkpoints and patrols by Iraqi forces. But the number of daily attacks has increased sharply.
A Whole New War, July 26, 2006:

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President Bush and national security adviser Stephen Hadley yesterday for the first time publicly acknowledged the momentous shift in the role for U.S. troops in Iraq, from fighting terrorists to trying to suppress religious violence.

This sea change was described in such understated terms that it was eclipsed by news about the crisis in Lebanon. Bush described a change in tactics; Hadley called it a repositioning.

But it's a historic admission: That job one for many American troops in Iraq is no longer fighting al-Qaeda terrorists, or even insurgents. Rather, it is trying to quell an incipient -- if not already raging -- sectarian civil war, with Baghdad as ground zero.

Arguably, that's been the case for quite a while. But having the White House own up to it is a very big deal.

As things stand now, an overwhelming majority of the American public no longer supports Bush's handling of the war, which they think was a mistake in the first place. A majority wants American troops to start coming home soon. What unqualified support there is for the war seems to come from people who believe it is central front in the war on terror.

But how will people feel about our troops being sent into the crossfire between rival Muslim sects? That is not the war anyone signed up to fight.
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Old 07-27-2006, 04:58 AM
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Be patient Curly , in no time at all Iraq will seem like a mosquito bite........
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Old 07-27-2006, 05:14 AM
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Be patient Curly , in no time at all Iraq will seem like a mosquito bite........
Yeah, a bite that infected the US with malaria and ensured a Republican-free White house for the next two decades.
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Old 07-27-2006, 05:39 AM
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Yeah, a bite that infected the US with malaria and ensured a Republican-free White house for the next two decades.
You counting your chickens before they're hatched, arent you? Beyond that, you totally missed the intended point. (Middle east to get far worse)
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Old 07-27-2006, 06:25 AM
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Be patient Curly , in no time at all Iraq will seem like a mosquito bite........
Yeah, as bad as Iraq is (and Afghanistan isn't as settled as we had once thought), I think it will get worse, and STILL not be the worst thing happening in the Middle East. At least American troops aren't being killed in Lebanon ... yet.

But there is a political price that will be paid for our misadventures in Iraq, in Congress this year and in the White House in two years.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:24 AM
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President Bush and Prime Minister Maliki of Iraq Participate in Press Availability, July 25, 2006: Bush: ...obviously, the violence in Baghdad is still terrible...


Gee, ya think?
It did sound different three years ago.


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President Bush said Wednesday that American troops under fire in Iraq aren't about to pull out, and he challenged those tempted to attack U.S. forces, "Bring them on."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...q-troops_x.htm

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Old 07-27-2006, 08:53 AM
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But this is all the liberal's fault. If the liberals were pro war like the Republicans the Sunnis and Shias wouldn't be fighting against eachother.

*Karl Rove smear tactic that's used on this board by right wing extremists.

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Old 08-01-2006, 05:15 AM
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And the hits just keep on coming. Cynics would say that the Bush Administration has been dragging its feet on Israel and Lebanon since this latest crisis in the Middle East is a great distraction from the mess in Iraq. But I can't believe that. More likely, Bush simply doesn't know what to do.

But in Iraq, widespread violence continues as the civil war heats up even more ....

Bus Filled With Iraqi Soldiers Bombed - Aug. 1, 2006:

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Bombings and shootings across Iraq killed at least 52 people Tuesday, including 24 people in a bus destroyed by a roadside bomb. The attacks further damage the U.S.-backed government's efforts to establish control over the country.

The bus, carrying many Iraqi soldiers, was struck in the northern industrial city of Beiji, killing everyone on board, said Defense Ministry spokesman Mohammed al-Askari.

Police earlier said that 20 Iraqi soldiers were killed on the bus. Al-Askari confirmed that many of the passengers were soldiers, but said he did not know how many. He said the bus was not being escorted by U.S. troops, as earlier believed.

Following the blast, a curfew was imposed in Beiji, 155 miles, north of Baghdad.

In the Karradah neighborhood of Baghdad, a car bomb exploded during morning rush hour near a bank, killing at least 14 people and injuring 37, said police Lt. Col. Abbas Mohammed Salman.

The target was well chosen because Iraqi security forces draw their salaries from the bank on the first day of every month. The blast set several cars on fire in the leafy Shiite neighborhood. Dismembered bodies were strewn on the sidewalk.

Abdul Hassan Mohammed, a 62-year-old teacher, said he was walking to the bank to draw his pension when the bomb exploded. "A big explosion slammed me 4 meters (12 feet) into a wall. My friends took me to one of their stores, gave me water and asked me to relax ... I didn't get my pension," he told The Associated Press.

Karradah has seen increasing violence in the sectarian fighting between Shiites and Sunnis in recent months. Last Thursday, rockets and mortars rained down in the neighborhood, collapsing an apartment house, shattering shops and killing 31 people. A car bomb also exploded at the same time.

Elsewhere, a car bomb targeting a police patrol killed one policeman and six civilians in Muqdadiyah, about 60 miles north of Baghdad, said an official of a joint Iraqi-U.S. security force center. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release details.

A roadside bomb narrowly missed a car belonging to the Ministry of Electricity, killing one civilian and wounding another in eastern Baghdad, police said. Gunmen in two cars raided a mosque west of Baghdad, killing a cleric and his brother.

A suicide attack was foiled when soldiers fired at a car trying to slam into an army convoy in Baghdad. The car exploded, killing the driver but nobody else, police said.

And two insurgents were killed when a roadside bomb they were planting on a highway detonated prematurely in Karma, 25 miles west of Baghdad, police said. In the northern town of Mosul, a drive-by shooting killed one civilian.

On Monday, gunmen dressed in military fatigues burst into the offices of the Iraqi-American Chamber of Commerce and a nearby mobile phone company, seizing 26 people in a daylight raid in a mostly Shiite area of the capital. The same day, a millionaire businessman and his two sons were abducted from their car in Baghdad.

All the victims were believed to be Iraqis. The Iraqi-American Chamber is an independent organization not affiliated with the U.S. government, and maintains branches throughout Iraq and in Amman, Jordan.

The Interior Ministry denied that the kidnappers were police - despite the uniforms - and blamed the attack on "terrorists," Iraqi state television reported.

U.S. officials estimate an average of 30-40 people are kidnapped each day in Iraq, although the real figure may be higher because few families contact the police. Security officials believe most of the ransoms end up in the hands of insurgent and militia groups.

Many abductions are believed to be tied to the ongoing violence between Sunni and Shiite extremists who target civilians of the rival Muslim communities.

On Monday, the government said that since February, 30,359 families - or about 182,000 people - had fled their homes due to sectarian violence and intimidation. That represented an increase of about 20,000 people from the number reported July 20.
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:53 AM
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Hagel calls Iraq 'replay of Vietnam', July 28, 2006:

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Calling conditions in Iraq "an absolute replay of Vietnam," Sen. Chuck Hagel said Friday that the Pentagon is making a mistake by beefing up American forces in Iraq. U.S. soldiers have become "easy targets" in a country that has descended into "absolute anarchy," the Nebraska Republican and Vietnam combat veteran said in an interview with The World-Herald. Hagel previously has likened the war in Iraq to Vietnam, but Friday's comments drew a stronger connection. They followed a speech on the Middle East that Hagel delivered at the Brookings Institution.
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:01 AM
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It's always hard to tell Curly, whether it's incompetence or evil, when it comes to Bush's inadequacy. I don't think one is better than the other to tell the truth and they both have the same outcome - a bad outcome, death and destruction, suffering and anger, more terrorists ready to kill us and our allies.
 

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