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Old 08-07-2006, 02:24 PM
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just found this interview with Galloway on Sky News. finally someone on mainstream news is allowed to speak some truth about the israeli hizbollah conflict and call out the news reporter's inherently biased questions. before anyone jumps on me about galloway's reputation or anything else, spare your breath. i'm only saying that its nice to see someone speaking some truth about the issue, such as his comment to the effect that mainstream news tends to value israeli blood more than lebanese or palestinian blood, which i believe is completely true. here it is on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbmgkCiwTKo
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:51 PM
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just found this interview with Galloway on Sky News. finally someone on mainstream news is allowed to speak some truth about the israeli hizbollah conflict and call out the news reporter's inherently biased questions. before anyone jumps on me about galloway's reputation or anything else, spare your breath. i'm only saying that its nice to see someone speaking some truth about the issue, such as his comment to the effect that mainstream news tends to value israeli blood more than lebanese or palestinian blood, which i believe is completely true. here it is on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbmgkCiwTKo
It looked like a silly pissing contest to me! Galloway strikes me a historical revisionist! His first big mistake is claiming that Israel never fully withdrew from Lebanon in 2000. Well the UN takes a different view of the matter. The UN certified Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon as complete after 2000.

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On May 22, 2000, Israel completed its withdrawal from the south of Lebanon in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 425. A 50 square kilometer piece of disputed mountain terrain, commonly referred to as the Shebaa Farms, remains under the control of Israel. The UN has certified Israel's pullout, and regards the Shebaa Farms as occupied Syrian territory, while Lebanon and Syria have stated they regard the area as Lebanese territory.

The January 20, 2005, UN Secretary-General's report on Lebanon stated: "The continually asserted position of the Government of Lebanon that the Blue Line is not valid in the Shab'a farms area is not compatible with Security Council resolutions. The Council has recognized the Blue Line as valid for purposes of confirming Israel's withdrawal pursuant to resolution 425 (1978). The Government of Lebanon should heed the Council's repeated calls for the parties to respect the Blue Line in its entirety."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...itary_presence
So Galloway seems to have a rather unique view of history not based on any sort of legal historical fact!

The second mistake is that he claimed Hezbollah was not a terrorist organisation? Hmmmm what would you call a group that receives these kinds of demands from Human Rights Watch?

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Israel/Lebanon: Hezbollah Must End Attacks on Civilians

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006...ebano13921.htm

Lebanon: Hezbollah Rocket Attacks on Haifa Designed to Kill Civilians

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006...ebano13760.htm
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Old 08-08-2006, 12:18 AM
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Careful with the term 'terrorist', Frank. The Zionists have killed ten times as many civilians as Hizb'allah, HRW have condemned them frequently yet you throw 'terrorist' at Hizb'allah.

Israel may have withdrawn troops from the UN vision of 'Lebanon' but there are still disputed areas. Also, the Zionists have continued to overfly Lebanon and to make incursions. In addition they have carried out many assassinations inside Lebanon, most with acknowledgment.

That's hardly a 'withdrawal'.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:33 AM
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Careful with the term 'terrorist', Frank. The Zionists have killed ten times as many civilians as Hizb'allah, HRW have condemned them frequently yet you throw 'terrorist' at Hizb'allah.

Israel may have withdrawn troops from the UN vision of 'Lebanon' but there are still disputed areas. Also, the Zionists have continued to overfly Lebanon and to make incursions. In addition they have carried out many assassinations inside Lebanon, most with acknowledgment.

That's hardly a 'withdrawal'.
No there is only one disputed area, and that area is actually part of Syria historically. Syria however has gone along with the fact that it is part of Lebanon in order to give the Hezzis cover to claim they are a resistance movement.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:51 AM
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Calling Shebaa 'part of Syria' was simply a means of facilitating the ruse that the Zionists had complied with Resolution 425.

The 'areas' disputed are the Farms. If it was a singular 'farm' in dispute it would be 'area', but it isn't. It's plural. Got that, Gort ?
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:51 AM
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just found this interview with Galloway on Sky News. finally someone on mainstream news is allowed to speak some truth about the israeli hizbollah conflict and call out the news reporter's inherently biased questions. before anyone jumps on me about galloway's reputation or anything else, spare your breath. i'm only saying that its nice to see someone speaking some truth about the issue, such as his comment to the effect that mainstream news tends to value israeli blood more than lebanese or palestinian blood, which i believe is completely true. here it is on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbmgkCiwTKo
I'd say it's the complete opposite. The mainstream news talks alot about Lebonese casualties. In fact they seem to be fixated on it.

They show devastated buildings in Lebanon, but they merely show an unmanned "drone" getting shot down over Israel.

I think the reason for the disparity is because of technilogical disparity.

Israel actually knows where it's missles land, They got it on videotape and have foward recon etc. However Hezbollah's rockets are unguided, notoriously innacurate and Israel does not want to let them know exactly where they land and act as Hezbollah's spotters. Doing that would help them make more accurate strikes.
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:23 PM
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The 'areas' disputed are the Farms. If it was a singular 'farm' in dispute it would be 'area', but it isn't. It's plural. Got that, Gort ?
Umm, Shebaa farms is a single piece of land, not several.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:54 PM
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Funny people think that is Israel withdrew from the "occupied" lands, this would be over.

"If they go from Sheba'a, we will not stop fighting them. Our goal is to liberate the 1948 borders of Palestine...[Jews] can go back to Germany or wherever they came from.” - Hezbollah spokesman Hassan Ezzedin
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:23 AM
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tomtallis;
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Umm, Shebaa farms is a single piece of land, not several.
It's a piece of land comprising farms, or at least it did prior to the Israelis desolating them. The farms once had populations, working different areas. The Shebaa Farms haven't always been a misappropriated tract of Lebanon used by the Zionists to humiliate and attack the Lebanese.

One day there'll be farms again, and no Zionists.
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Old 08-09-2006, 06:51 AM
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Shebaa Farms have never been a part of Lebanon.

Nancy Soderberg, US Ambassator to the UN under President Clinton, said it best:
"When it was clear the Israelis were going to withdraw fully from Lebanon, Syrian and Lebanese officials fabricated the fiction that this small, sparsely populated area was part of Lebanon. They even produced a crudely fabricated map to back up the dubious claim. I and United Nations officials went into the map room in the United Nations and looked at all the maps of the region in the files for decades. All showed the Shebaa Farms clearly in Syria."
 

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