Thread: Will Obama go down along with the dollar?

I've read an interview with one of Russia's political analysts on the current world situation, it's origins and prspectives. I found his view interesting enough to share it with you and also to hear your thoughts on it.

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"An epic performance with the debt ceiling of America and the fall of its credit rating was organized in order to accustom us to a thought of the inevitability of the US default and dollar crash.

Who is America's master?

-- America as such is not to blame for the coming woes, - said Vladimir Polevanov. - Default will be on the conscience of the Federal Reserve - a group of private banks that nearly a century ago privatized the dollar printing machine and has deprived the U.S. of its currency and independence.

Federal Reserv is led by the seven governors. Officially they are approved by the U.S. president. Reminiscent of Soviet times, when the CPSU Central Committee "recommended" the secretaries of regional committees. I do not remember regional committees turning down their candidates. Same here: the president got a list of seven candidates, including Federal Reserve chairman, and endorsed it for 14 years.

-- But the US president can sit only two 4-year terms.

-- - Maximum! See, who is more important? Formally the president can fire any FR manager. But no one in the White House ever used this right! Even in a time of severe crisis. Try firing and you will be left with no funding.

I repeat, the U.S. does not have it's own currency. They need a trillion dollars? The government has to turn to the FR. They are happy to print it at2% per annum. There is only 5% cash in the U.S. It is very convenient: no need to spend on paper and ink. FR makes 20 billion on every trillion it prints for the government; and gets to manage the U.S. debt -- the so-called Treasury. Again, the US needs money to pay off the debts? The government asks the FR for a trillion or two at 2%.

The debt is growing.

-- Who are these people making a profitable business on a printing press?

-- An interesting question. The seven governors who are in plain sight are just managers. Those who are at the bottom of the pyramid do not like to open their faces. Take the main bank of the FR - New York. Its list of the shareholders is a secret. Since the "Bank of New York is not a public company and may not meet the requirement of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to publish a list of shareholders." Got it? The world does not know the true masters of the world's dominant currency. They do not flash in the "Forbes" -- that Vanity Fair. I have carefully sifted through the list of billionaires of the planet in 2011. 1210 people!

There are many Americans, Chinese, Russians. There are Ukrainians, Kazakhs. But where are the legendary names of the bankers - the founders of the Federal Reserve: Morgan, Malone, the Rothschilds, Kuna, Leba, Warburg? They are not there! Only a 96-year-old Rockefeller. I was particularly struck by the absence of Rothschild whose ancestor actually put forward the idea to privatize money-printing machine. Big money like quiet.

Bubbles always burst

- Federal Reserve was created in 1913 with good intentions: to deal with financial crises, unemployment, strengthen the state's economy. On paper. What actually happened? At that time, America owed to Europe less than $ 3 billion. Now the most powerful country is in debt up to its eyeballs. Only the U.S. national debt is more than $ 14 trillion. Public sector debt - $ 61 trillion., The private sector - $ 38 trillion. Total debt - more than 110 trillion. Given that the entire annual GDP of the planet is about $ 70 trillion.

Clearly, this debt will never be repaid. The Yankees obviously are living beyond their means.

In addition, the FR promoted the stock-market game around the world. There are about 1.5 thousand trillion dollars worth of securities on the stock exchanges, they are supported by money only at 1-2%. A giant bubble has been inflated. It will burst along with the dollar. The laws of physics has not been canceled.



- For many years we were told that the dollar is about to collapse. But the greenback remains the most reliable currency.


-Well, yes, “there is no alternative to the "green" . We heard that also. Remember, we were assured that there is no alternative to Gorbachev's perestroika and Gaidar's –Chubais liberal reforms imposed on us, by the way, from Washington. Now we look at China as an example: we were cheated – there was an alternative. Where is Russia now and where is China? In a quarter of a century we became a natural resources colony of the West, while China is breathing down U.S neck.
The monopoly of the dollar is over, the pyramid is cracking.



The dollar may survive for some time if there will be a large-scale war. The war write off all debts! When the world is burning and tens of millions are killed the FR might say “look: the only oasis of calm is the dollar and our securities. That’s how the US bankers made their money in the first and the second world war: by lending to Europe that was fighting. However, they are no fools to try the same with the third world war - it is too dangerous for everyone. The perfect solution for them would be to play India against China, or at least against Pakistan. Do you recall the capture of the Hotel in Bombay with more than a hundred victims? A survivor terrorist said that he was taught by the Pakistani intelligence service. Luckily, India had enough sense not to respond to that provocation. Or take the so-called "killing bin Laden," ...

- A clear PR campaign to raise the rating of a"peacemaker" Obama.



- It was only the first part of a pre-planned operation. Next was suppose to be an ambitious landing of American troops at the nuclear facilities “to prevent their seizure by terrorists in revenge for bin Laden”. Of course, arrogant Yankees would not have asked the consent of Pakistani authorities . American fleet in the Indian Ocean was in full combat readiness, as were the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. A large-scale conflict was prevented by Beijing, that has helped Islamabad to acquire nuclear weaponsand has a base there. During the talks in Washington on 9 - 10 of May a vice-premier Wang Qishan, a very respected politician, warned the US that an attack on Pakistan would be considered an act of aggression against China. The last time the US received such ultimatum from a nuclear power was more than half a century ago from the Soviet Union during the Berlin crisis.

So in May the world was walking on a thin blade. However, this "Pakistani nuclear trail" may soon come back to haunt Obama. Several high-profile provocations were organized near China itself. North Korea was accused of sinking a South Korean destroyer, killing 46 sailors. But soon all went strangely quiet. Because the delegations from China and Russia attended the meetings to analyse the conflict. It turned out that a ship was destroyed by a German torpedo which Pyongyang did not posess. Provocateurs has lost their skills! Then there were strange maneuvers in the disputed island, a provocative attack on "northerners". Again China prevented the provocation from developing.

And then there was that idiotic from the perspective of common sense capture by pirates of the Arctic Sea in the Baltic Sea.

-- Indeed, a strange story. Still unclear.

-- It looks like "pirates" were going to take on board a cargo of the Russian missiles and be intercepted by Israeli (and maybe American) boats in Iran's territorial waters. Upon the "Discovery" of the rockets we would’ve been accused of illegally selling weapons, and Iran – of preparing an attack on Israel. Covered by a “worthy cause” the Israelis would have delivered a powerful strike on Iran. (Iran to the United States is like a bone in the throat for many reasons.) Tel Aviv even released from prison 20 Palestinian militants including three leaders of the "Hamas" in exchange for a corporal. Clearly not equival exchange. So that they would buy a favor from "Hamas": that during an attack on Iran it will not begin sabotage Israel. Thank God, this time the Russian secret services have worked on prevention: seized the ship and did not allow it to turn into a large-scale provocation.

They can not plunge into the chaos the North Africa and the Middle East. They did manage to change the government in Tunisia, but In Egypt it all went awry and the power was taken by the military.

Gaddafi does not give up. Syria holds.

The FR has one last resort: to arrange a superprovocation more massive then 9/11 2001. To make the whole world even more horrified. But now we can sleep peacefully, I think they will wait for a number of events next year.

Yuan at gunpoint.

-- And what will happen in 2012, a promised by the Mayans doomsday?



- Election of the President of Russia, for example.



- Does it matter to FR who will win?



- Your irony is understandable. Indeed, among the world centers of power we are only fourth after America (along with Britain), China and Europe. A weakest link. And at the same time - a "golden goose". Who will get it will be the Boss on the planet, even for purely geographical reasons, without taking into account our rich natural resources. Look at the map! Go with Europe and the euro zone will extend to the Kolyma! Unite with China – Celestial Empire will stretch to the Baltic. Go to America – well, it’s clear without the words...

-- This can happen?

-- Didn’t you hear about the statement Prokhorov had made, that he is ready to become prime minister and to unite Russia and Europe? Prokhorov is a serious man. If he sees himself as a prime minister then it’s under a particular president. But its possible that there will be a different president. Why do you think they started actively spinning a pro-American anti-Putin project "Naval’ny"?

-- Whom it will be to our advantage to join?

-- It will be to our advantage to remain independent.Those whom we lean against will swallow us. However, the FR will wait until next autumn. It is important because of the XVIII Congress of the Communist Party of China. They will be replacing their head of the Communist Party. What if the new leadership will change a course? It’s not for nothing the U.S. Vice President Joe Biden went there.


- The one who last spring was telling Moscow, who should and who should not compete to become a President of Russia? We gave a decent answer to a "hawk" - organised the People's Front.


- Well, he can’t behave this way in China. He is just "getting acquainted with the future leadership."

-- In November of 2012 America will hold its own presidential election.


- But they may not take place. Not for nothing the U.S. is now deliberately aggravateing relations with Pakistan, creating there a sharp increase in anti-American sentiment. It is no coincidence that a supposedly independent "Wikileaks" made public messages, saying that the U.S. Congress in private correspondence fear terrorists can get hold of a nuclear weapon from Pakistan and retaliate for the murdere of Osama bin Laden.
It is possible the public is getting acustomed to the idea of a future nuclear provocations in the States.


Most likely, the directed blast breaks out in the White House in Washington. This will drown out the noise of falling of a dollar pyramid, the bursting of the bubble. However, if we assume the worst scenario, the world and without that terrible scourge will be shocked by the death of a Nobel Laureate, the first black U.S. president Obama. And then FR in good conscience will declare that because of these damn terrorists the US is forced to abandon the dollar as legal tender and declare a default. They will promise to repay the world over 50 years, or a 100... For internal calculations they will introduce the "blue 100’s” already printed last spring. Or the notorious Amero.

Theoretically, the sorrowful news of the collapse of the dollar will have to be announced by those who prints them – a Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke. But he is likely to entrust this mission to Biden.

In December of 2012 the US will celebrate 99 years of creating the Federal Reserve. In business it is a period of long-term leases. It turns out that is coming to an end a long-term lease of a money printing machine by FR. Bankers will leave the country in debt. And to cover their tracks they will need a provocation. Obama means nothing to them. He is not Anglo-Saxon of their circle, and to think about it, -- he is an “illegitimate” president. I mean he was not born in the United States, and therefore illegally entered the White House. No wonder that such rumors are being spread. They are believed by a quarter of Americans.



Not for nothing the FR lads are waiting for the outcome of the elections in Russia and Congress of the CPC. Perhaps they will try to saddle the yuan. An old fox Kissinger has long courted the Chinese leadership... And it is possible that in Russia they will try to take a printing press into a long term lease, as they did in the United States at the beginning of the last century.

And the "poor" Baron Nathan Rothschild has recently shown a great interest in global raw material resources in Russia, the Middle East and elsewhere. Oil, coal, aluminum, nickel, platinum and gold.

So, what’s cooking?"

Very interesting !

Have you followed the claim that through interlocking ownership of the FR banks that it is the bank of England who actually is in control ?

This trail led me to suspect our war of independence "result" was a contrived event repeated over and over as England was shed (on the surface) of her colonies but retained a financial grip on same to this day.

In respect to our debt; Because all money is a conceptual thing I feel somehow Mathematicians in a giant world settlement house could reposition
debt world wide and we all just carry on with better control..

The major competing nations have too much to lose by not following such a plan and the smaller ones will have to comply and possibly merge.

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