Thread: You thoughts on the 9-11 memorial

What do you think of the design of the waterfall feature(s) of the memorial? It kinda gives me the creeps, the falling water at each footprint brings to mind the falling buildings which is not a pleasant thought for me.

On a related topic, I saw a show on Discovery about the building of the memorial and other features. Evidently some foreign architect designed (all/part?) of it and they were bringing in massive fabricated structural steel components that were made in Spain. This I did not like even a little bit. Here we are, jobless in America and we're bringing in shit from Spain to build an American memorial! They made a halfhearted attempt to justify it by saying that the Spanish company was familiar with building structures of this architect's design..............like American metal fabricators can't read blueprints.

I like the design. I think it was very tastefully done, with the waterfalls being right where the footprints of the towers were. Waterfalls tend to be very peaceful and calming. I also like that they surrounded it with trees, which should help block out the sounds of the city and add to the overall peacefullness. I look forward to visiting it soon.

I wasn't aware of the fact that materials were coming from foreign lands, but I won't let that detract from the meaning and the purpose of the memorial when I visit it. It would have been nice if they'd used domestic designers and materials, though. Makes me wonder about the new tower that's going up as well.

Originally Posted by chassisman

What do you think of the design of the waterfall feature(s) of the memorial? It kinda gives me the creeps, the falling water at each footprint brings to mind the falling buildings which is not a pleasant thought for me.

It's never given me that impression.

Evidently some foreign architect designed (all/part?) of it .

Oh dear.

and they were bringing in massive fabricated structural steel components that were made in Spain

Oh my god. They'll be roasting babies alive and having them for their dinner, next.

Originally Posted by Sir Drinkalot

It's never given me that impression.



Oh dear.



Oh my god. They'll be roasting babies alive and having them for their dinner, next.

Yeah, fuck all those out of work US steelworkers, let 'em starve............

I'd really like to see the memorial in person. Often times, it's hard to make a judgement on these things from just looking at pictures or seeing it on TV. You really have to be there to take it all in. It certainly looks impressive, I think.

The architects of the memorial are two American citizens, btw, Peter Walker and Michael Arad.

Not sure where the steel came from, but I could've sworn they originally wanted to use steel from the WTC itself.

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

The architects of the memorial are two American citizens, btw, Peter Walker and Michael Arad.

Good to know. Ordinarily, I wouldn't care so much about something like this, but for the 9/11 memorial, I'd rather it had been designed by Americans.

Originally Posted by chassisman

Yeah, fuck all those out of work US steelworkers, let 'em starve............

Can they not get other jobs? Or are they only capable of working with steel?

This is a competitive world and things like that happen.

A similar thing has just happened in Britain. There was uproar recently when the British Government, for some reason, chose to award the £3 billion Thameslink train deal to German company Siemens in Germany rather than award it to the British-based Bombardier to be built in a factory in Derby - a factory that has been building trains since 1840. Instead, what happened? 1,400 British workers at the Derby site are now losing their jobs! But the workers in Germany will be happy, though, as they build new trains for Britain's Thameslink route. The Government came out and said that it's against EU rules to favour your own companies and workers over those in other EU nations. However, if that's true, it doesn't stop French and German companies breaking that rule to award the vast majority of their major manufacturing contracts to their own workers and companies.

Thameslink is a fifty-station main-line route running 140 mi north to south through London from Bedford to Brighton, serving both London Gatwick Airport and London Luton Airport.

Anyway, I've had a look all over the internet for evidence that a Spanish company made the 9/11 Memorial steel and I can't find any.

Originally Posted by Sir Drinkalot

Anyway, I've had a look all over the internet for evidence that a Spanish company made the 9/11 Memorial steel and I can't find any.

I couldn't find anything either. That doesn't mean some of the structural components didn't come from Spain, but I couldn't find any info on it.

I guess it's cool that they built a park where the Towers stood.

I'd rather they'd taken that money and took care of the first responders who served during the initial rescue/recovery phase and are now dying of exotic cancers at the rate of about one per week.

But Christie Whitman and Rudy Giuliani said the air was clean, so it must be coincidence.



Whatever.

As long as people have someplace to go and be all gay and sensitive and self-absorbed then the memorial will have served its purpose.

Originally Posted by soot

As long as people have someplace to go and be all gay and sensitive and self-absorbed then the memorial will have served its purpose.

That's true. I guess those assholes who lost family members and loved ones in the WTC attacks should have someplace to go and be dicks. And it's not like those first repsonders are being honored at the gayass memorial, so whatevs.