Thread: Democrats--growing crowd wants Obama challenged for nomination.

The move to challenge President Barack Obama in a Democratic primary is growing stronger by the day with House members openly pushing the case for an internal party battle.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich, who ran for the Democratic nomination in both 2004 and 2008 told CNN a challenge to Obama would “make him a better president.”

And Oregon Rep. Peter DeFazio told The Hill that more and more Democrats believe that Obama needs to be challenged. “It’s a common refrain, and it’s certainly common in my district among Democrats,” he said. “They want the guy back that they voted for.”

DeFazio said there are many Democrats in the House who agree with him, but would not name names.

Even former Clinton adviser and Democratic strategist James Carville today called for the president to 'wake up' and 'panic.' Carville called on Obama to clean house, fire staff that's advising him and return to Democractic principles that got him elected.

"This is what I would say to President Barack Obama: The time has come to demand a plan of action that requires a complete change from the direction you are headed," Carville wrote in a CNN column.

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Panicky Democrats Seeking Primary Challenger to Obama

Recently there was a poll that stated that 23% of the democrat party wanted Obama challenged for the nomination. This poll was before the results of NY9--a special election that was held to replace the congressman Anthony Weiner. It happens that this district--which includes Brooklyn and Queens has been solidly held by democrats since 1923--or the last 90 years. NOT NOW. As of now--this seat belongs to a Republican.

As most of us knew--Democrats would start jumping ship on Obama--and two days after this special election--we can see that is exactly what they are doing.

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The only real contender they have is Hillary Clinton. That's how it works. You usually have some person who has been around forever whose "turn it is" to run. That's what got us Bob Dole. Obama was pressed into service as a "clean, articulate Black guy," but we all know if he'd have been white he still be a nobody. So basically it's Hillary or Obama.

Originally Posted by C-B-M

The only real contender they have is Hillary Clinton. That's how it works. You usually have some person who has been around forever whose "turn it is" to run. That's what got us Bob Dole. Obama was pressed into service as a "clean, articulate Black guy," but we all know if he'd have been white he still be a nobody. So basically it's Hillary or Obama.

I believe Hillary made the biggest mistake of her life by accepting a position in his administration. She would have been a major power house if she stayed in the Senate. Obama knew what he was doing here--stick her the closet--making it impossible for her to challenge him.

Even if Hillary would forgive the party that kicked her to the curb for Barack Obama--she would never win a general run-off because she comes from this administration.

I would ditch Obama for Kucinich ... the hell with Hillary. I'd like to see an old time pub/dem battle for President not some watered down Dem like Obama/Clinton.

Nah, she could still beat Bobbie Hussein. While it is true that she's part of the administration, she's not ever associated with it. When's the last time you heard about her? This administration doesn't ever do anything. It basically just plods along painfully from speech to speech as the country deteriorates. I'm not joking about that, BTW.

Originally Posted by C-B-M

Nah, she could still beat Bobbie Hussein. While it is true that she's part of the administration, she's not ever associated with it. When's the last time you heard about her? This administration doesn't ever do anything. It basically just plods along painfully from speech to speech as the country deteriorates. I'm not joking about that, BTW.

Naw--Hillary is stuck like super glue to Obama now. She wouldn't be able to separate herself from this administration.

Originally Posted by Oreo

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Panicky Democrats Seeking Primary Challenger to Obama

Recently there was a poll that stated that 23% of the democrat party wanted Obama challenged for the nomination. This poll was before the results of NY9--a special election that was held to replace the congressman Anthony Weiner. It happens that this district--which includes Brooklyn and Queens has been solidly held by democrats since 1923--or the last 90 years. NOT NOW. As of now--this seat belongs to a Republican.

As most of us knew--Democrats would start jumping ship on Obama--and two days after this special election--we can see that is exactly what they are doing.

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I don't want Obama to be contested in the Democratic primaries as there are many Democrats that are reregistering as Republicans to vote for Ron Paul. If there was a Democrat challenger then I think that would draw more votes away from Dr. Paul.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

I don't want Obama to be contested in the Democratic primaries as there are many Democrats that are reregistering as Republicans to vote for Ron Paul. If there was a Democrat challenger then I think that would draw more votes away from Dr. Paul.

Possibly--but it's kind of hard for me to believe that they could possibly compare any democrat to Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is as different as night and day from a typical democrat politician.

Originally Posted by Oreo

Possibly--but it's kind of hard for me to believe that they could possibly compare any democrat to Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is as different as night and day from a typical democrat politician.

Well, there are many similarities to Dennis Kucinich and Dr. Paul. They've even worked together on a few things. I've heard quite a few sound-bites were they sound fairly similar. Aside from Kucinich, I can't think of anyone close.

-edit- It's not that a challenger would even have to compare to Ron Paul, if (s)he challenged Obama. It's simply the fact that so many Democrats are disenfranchised with Obama and any alternative would pull votes from Paul during the primaries. This is important because the primaries is going to be harder for Paul to win than the general election. Now is when he needs the votes the most.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Well, there are many similarities to Dennis Kucinich and Dr. Paul. They've even worked together on a few things. I've heard quite a few sound-bites were they sound fairly similar. Aside from Kucinich, I can't think of anyone close.

-edit- It's not that a challenger would even have to compare to Ron Paul, if (s)he challenged Obama. It's simply the fact that so many Democrats are disenfranchised with Obama and any alternative would pull votes from Paul during the primaries. This is important because the primaries is going to be harder for Paul to win than the general election. Now is when he needs the votes the most.

The problem with Ron Paul--is his foreign policy. You just can't get the American public to wrap around their minds--that should we know where OSB is--we're not going to go in and get him--because we would be violating foreign air space. Kuchinich was against invading Afganistan after 9/11--Americans would have never voted for that.

While I agree with Ron Paul on a lot of things--I really don't believe he will be the nominee much less the President. However, where I do see a chance is with his son Rand Paul--if he can get his foreign policy in line with how Americans really think.